Hi,
Thanks all for sharing. Marc I would like a copy of your paper as well.
Warmly,
Justine
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Tia Henderson <tia(a)upstreampublichealth.org
wrote:
> I have greatly enjoyed this informative discussion, thanks everyone for
> participating. Marc I would like a copy of your paper as well.
> Best,
> Tia
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> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Salim Vohra <
> sal(a)publichealthbydesign.com
wrote:
>
>> Marc,
>>
>> I would be interested in reading your paper. Good discussion thank you.
>>
>> Best,
>> Sal
>>
>> Dr Salim Vohra MBChB MSc PhD
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>> From: "mbrenman001(a)comcast.net" <mbrenman001(a)comcast.net>
>> Date: Monday, 16 June 2014 12:32
>> To: Martin Birley <martin(a)birleyhia.co.uk>
>>
>> Cc: Alex Scott-Samuel <A.Scott-Samuel(a)liverpool.ac.uk>uk>, Salim Vohra <
>> sal(a)publichealthbydesign.com>gt;, Ben Cave <ben.cave(a)bcahealth.co.uk>uk>,
>> Jenny Mindell <j.mindell(a)ucl.ac.uk>uk>, TRB Health and Transportation <
>> h+t--friends(a)chrispy.net>gt;, "Ben Harris-Roxas
(b.harris-roxas(a)unsw.edu.au)"
>> <b.harris-roxas(a)unsw.edu.au>
>> Subject: Re: [H+T--Friends] H+T--Friends Digest, Vol 38, Issue 4 - HIA
>>
>> Thanks, Martin. Many of these international principles apply in
>> principle but not in practice in the US; they have little or no legal
>> standing. Individual organizations could adopt them, and also pursue their
>> own visions, like the Gates Foundation. The values of a very large and
>> rich organization like Gates can drive international efforts. Gates has
>> been criticized for this; driving out other efforts.
>>
>> I wonder about the effectiveness of the work of corporations "ahead of
>> the national government in which project is located." For example, when I
>> look at sixty years of humanitarian assistance in Haiti, I see almost no
>> progress. Organizations built medical clinics and hospitals that met no
>> seismic design and construction standards, even though they were on a known
>> earthquake zone, and consequently fell down in the big earthquake a few
>> years ago. This argues for inclusion of best practices from various forms
>> of infrastructure when HIAs are done. This could be another example of the
>> "silo" or "stovepipe" problem.
>>
>> Another aspect from Haiti is the fact that some otherwise highminded
>> organizations refuse to provide contraception, family planning, and
>> abortion funding, services, or advice due to religious and theological
>> reasons. They thus perpetuate poverty and thus wipe out any progress that
>> may be made in another area.
>>
>> A third example those medical people on this discussion know much more
>> about than me-- the lack of education and aid on basic sanitary services in
>> places like Haiti. I watch sophisticated medical services being provided,
>> when a shipload of 50 cent Chinese shovels and soap and instructions about
>> digging pit latrines away from water sources and washing hands could
>> accomplish more in cutting the chain of disease transmission.
>>
>> A fourth example from tragic Haiti is the emphasis by some organizations
>> on electronic solutions to "problems," using cellphone and computer
>> networks, for example, when much lower tech solutions are needed.
>>
>> Sorry to go on like this, but when I look at evaluation of humanitarian
>> operations, I see this sort of thing. If anyone is interested, I have a
>> paper on this subject.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Martin Birley" <martin(a)birleyhia.co.uk>
>> *To: *"marcomcast" <mbrenman001(a)comcast.net>
>> *Cc: *"Alex Scott-Samuel" <A.Scott-Samuel(a)liverpool.ac.uk>uk>,
"Salim
>> Vohra" <sal(a)publichealthbydesign.com>om>, "Ben Cave" <
>> ben.cave(a)bcahealth.co.uk>gt;, "Jenny Mindell"
<j.mindell(a)ucl.ac.uk>uk>, "TRB
>> Health and Transportation" <h+t--friends(a)chrispy.net>et>, "Ben
Harris-Roxas
>> (b.harris-roxas(a)unsw.edu.au)" <b.harris-roxas(a)unsw.edu.au>
>> *Sent: *Monday, June 16, 2014 12:06:42 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [H+T--Friends] H+T--Friends Digest, Vol 38, Issue 4 - HIA
>>
>> Marc
>> It would be great to have your detailed view of how the IFC PF and
>> Equator Principles apply in US in light of what US is and is not signatory
>> to. Also how well IFC addresses civil rights.
>>
>> Treaties on human rights include the right to health. we have had legal
>> opinion in the past that this is about progressive realization and that
>> decisions by government that would reduce health are then in breach of
>> treaty obligations.
>>
>> In HIA I'm usually just constructing a justified argument to a
>> corporation who are concerned about their reputation, social license to
>> operate and investment risk rating. They are usually ahead of the national
>> government in which project is located.
>> I think the IFC PS anticipates your point and expects clients to act even
>> when government is uninterested. It's a loan condition.
>>
>> Martin
>>
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