Now that we have new urbanized boundaries, does FHWA have a timetable for
updating functional classification of roadways? Beyond the shift of the
arterials between urban and rural, we have rural minor collectors that may need
to be reclassified as an urban collector (and urban collector could easily be a
rural major collector).
Will FHWA modify the census definition of urban for functional classifications?
I haven't seen a map or our areas yet, but I'm guessing there will be roadways
with the urban-rural boundary split down the middle of the road. There are also
areas with a very urban character that will likely be designated rural because
there is no population density.
Frank Miller
Missouri Department of Transportation - District 8
We have converted our 2000 urbanized area boundaries and examined them in
ArcView. It appears that our urbanized area has shrunk in many areas
compared with the 1990 Census urbanized area. There are declines
particularly around less occupied areas (we have a lot of marshes here in
Charleston) adjacent to and surrounded by urban areas. Some changes are
harder to explain, particularly in rapidly developing parts of our region
that moved from being "urban" to "rural" by Census definition.
This came as somewhat of a surprise to us. We had calculated our boundaries
based on the draft regs published last year, and the final ones look
dramatically different for our region.
Could anyone give a basic explanation of the change in philosophy between
designating the 1990 and 2000 boundaries? As the region's MPO, we need a
good explanation (suitable for the layperson) to tell our local folks,
particularly in areas that have much more growth than they did 10 years ago
but are now called "rural."
Thanks.
Haila R. Maze, AICP
Senior Planner
Berkeley Charleston Dorchester Council of Governments
5290 Rivers Avenue, Suite 400
North Charleston, SC 29406
(843) 529-0400
(843) 529-0305 fax
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert LaMacchia [mailto:robert.a.lamacchia@census.gov]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:05 PM
To: Ctpp-News Maillist
Subject: [CTPP] UA TIGER/Line files now available
The UA Census 2000 TIGER/Line files are now available at:
http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/tigerua/ua_tgr2k.html
<http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/tigerua/ua_tgr2k.html>
Bob LaMacchia
Geography Division
U. S. Census Bureau
The release of the new UAs has inspired a lot of questions about their effects on transportation planning and programming. The FHWA has a couple of good web pages on FAQs:
Specifically for UZA and UC
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census/faqa2cdt.htm
And a couple of layers up, but a broader swatch of transportation planning
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census/
Happy hunting!
Liz Hartmann
MnDot Office of Investment Management
Elaine,
Helpful stuff. Have you heard any date/timeframe for announcement of
new/updated TMA boundaries? I would also appreciate it if you (or anyone
else) can provide me with the basics on how the TMA update process will be
carried out. I presume that it will be based on the new UZA boundaries, but
I haven't seen anything on how the TMA boundaries will be modified to
reflect the 2000 census numbers.
Thanks.
Brian Lakeman
Genesee Transportation Council
-----Original Message-----
From: Elaine Murakami [mailto:Elaine.Murakami@igate.fhwa.dot.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:10 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net; wschaefer(a)ci.madison.wi.us
Subject: Re: [CTPP] Effective Date of New UAs
Here is response from Sheldon Edner of FHWA:
The designation for all UZAs was effective upon publication by the Census
Bureau. New TMAs (UZA over 200,000 for first time) are effective, for
transportation planning purposes, upon designation by the Secretary of
Transportation.
Regarding the use of FTA funds, please contact FTA.
Regarding STP attributable funding, FY 2003 funding will be apportioned to
the States in October, 2002 and will provide the first STP attributable
funding for new TMAs. If the newly designated UZAs were part of an MPO
(which was a TMA) before the publication of the Census information, they
were already eligible for STP funding. If they have become part of the MPO
(TMA) for the first time, they are eligible to use STP funding as soon as
(starting after October1, 2002) projects utilizing those funds are included
in a plan and TIP. Communities do not apply to FHWA for these funds, they
are available as a result of the MPO planning process and the inclusion of
projects utilizing them in plans and TIPs. Funding is made available
through the State DOT.
Sheldon Edner
FHWA Office of Metropolitan Planning
Please remove my name as I am no longer working for NDDOT in a planning
related position.
dbentz(a)nd.state.us
Duane R. Bentz, PE
Associate Staff
North Dakota Department of Transportation
May 14, 2002
Here is response from Sheldon Edner of FHWA:
The designation for all UZAs was effective upon publication by the Census Bureau. New TMAs (UZA over 200,000 for first time) are effective, for transportation planning purposes, upon designation by the Secretary of Transportation.
Regarding the use of FTA funds, please contact FTA.
Regarding STP attributable funding, FY 2003 funding will be apportioned to the States in October, 2002 and will provide the first STP attributable funding for new TMAs. If the newly designated UZAs were part of an MPO (which was a TMA) before the publication of the Census information, they were already eligible for STP funding. If they have become part of the MPO (TMA) for the first time, they are eligible to use STP funding as soon as (starting after October1, 2002) projects utilizing those funds are included in a plan and TIP. Communities do not apply to FHWA for these funds, they are available as a result of the MPO planning process and the inclusion of projects utilizing them in plans and TIPs. Funding is made available through the State DOT.
Sheldon Edner
FHWA Office of Metropolitan Planning
The urban clusters are effective as of being in the Census Federal
Register. For those areas which now have 50,000 population, the Governor
and local officials will have to decide if an existing MPO will handle
that planning work or if a new one is need and who that should be. See
Burbank and Adams memorandum of 12/21/2000
(www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/c2000mem.htm ) They should do this within
12 months of the Federal Register.
For those areas that will be bigger than 200,000, FHWA will publish a
separate Federal Register with the official list of TMAs. After that is
done, the clock starts for them to make the necessary changes for those
requirements.
The earliest that PL funds will be available to new MPOs will be October
2002.
Ben Williams, P.E.
Metropolitan Planning Specialist
Federal Highway Administration
Southern Resource Center
V (404) 562-3671
F (404) 562-3700
ben.williams(a)fhwa.dot.gov
Web Site
www.fhwa.dot.gov/resourcecenters/southern
>>> wschaefer(a)ci.madison.wi.us 05/13/02 03:41PM >>>
I've got a question for FHWA folks. When do the new urban areas become
effective for Federal funding purposes? The FAQ from FHWA someone
referenced does not answer this question. I assume the MPO must submit
its new urban area (based on the Census-defined urbanized area) to FHWA
first.
To give you an example, we have two suburban communities that have been
added to the UA that have shared ride taxi systems funded with Federal
Non-Urbanized Area Formula Program funds. Because they are now in the
UA, they will not be eligible for those funds. The other example is the
use of STP-Urban funding on projects located within communities that are
now within UA boundary, but weren't before. When can these communities
apply for such funds? Thanks in advance for your response(s).
Bill Schaefer,Transportation Planner
Madison (WI) Area MPO
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zkazimi(a)state.mt.us
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: William Schaefer [mailto:wschaefer@ci.madison.wi.us]
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:41 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] Effective Date of New UAs
I've got a question for FHWA folks. When do the new urban areas become
effective for Federal funding purposes? The FAQ from FHWA someone
referenced does not answer this question. I assume the MPO must submit
its new urban area (based on the Census-defined urbanized area) to FHWA
first.
To give you an example, we have two suburban communities that have been
added to the UA that have shared ride taxi systems funded with Federal
Non-Urbanized Area Formula Program funds. Because they are now in the
UA, they will not be eligible for those funds. The other example is the
use of STP-Urban funding on projects located within communities that are
now within UA boundary, but weren't before. When can these communities
apply for such funds? Thanks in advance for your response(s).
Bill Schaefer,Transportation Planner
Madison (WI) Area MPO
I've got a question for FHWA folks. When do the new urban areas become
effective for Federal funding purposes? The FAQ from FHWA someone
referenced does not answer this question. I assume the MPO must submit
its new urban area (based on the Census-defined urbanized area) to FHWA
first.
To give you an example, we have two suburban communities that have been
added to the UA that have shared ride taxi systems funded with Federal
Non-Urbanized Area Formula Program funds. Because they are now in the
UA, they will not be eligible for those funds. The other example is the
use of STP-Urban funding on projects located within communities that are
now within UA boundary, but weren't before. When can these communities
apply for such funds? Thanks in advance for your response(s).
Bill Schaefer,Transportation Planner
Madison (WI) Area MPO
This message is for users attempting to use ESRI software (ArcGIS) to load
the UA Census 2000 TIGER/Line files and have been having problems.
I have been informed by ESRI that they will have a fix for ArcGis Monday:
======================================================
I have been working with ESRI technical support on the issue and a
document describing how to work around the issues with the new 2000 UA
datasets will be online later today or on Monday. The workaround simply
requires the user to update two template INFO files that are a part of our
install. The online document will describe how to manually do this in
ArcCatalog and will also have links to updated files users could just copy.
Once these two templates have been updated, the newly updated record type A
and S fields will be correct in the coverages created by Tigerarc, Tigertool
or the Tiger Wizard in ArcToolbox.
I will also have a link to this document put as a hot topic on our support
web page. These updates were not placed in ArcGIS 8.2, as the code base was
locked down for 8.2 by the time the final UA format file was sent out by the
census bureau. We should have had a document prepared for users before now
and I apologize for the delay in getting this out. Technical support will
handle the support of users having problems with UA datasets and it would be
great if you could tell your people to refer users to
http://support.esri.com/ for a copy of the document I previously mentioned.
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Bob LaMacchia
