Hi Jerry, what is "residual confounding"? Thanks
Marc Brenman
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If you read the whole paper, it's a cautionary tale against confusing association with
causation.
When an association intuitively (or because of our prejudices/preconceptions) seems
correct, we ascribe greater emphasis than may be warranted. When we judge it wrong, we
look for other explanations, such as residual confounding.
Although Bayesian approaches do incorporate our prior (evidence-based) beliefs, this paper
is about less formal approaches to interpreting results.
Regards
Jenny Mindell
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And the smaller the passengers, the more people can be crammed into a bus...
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Maybe we can match height of riders with need for petite clothing - a business
opportunity. My petite daughters would appreciate that.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:23 AM, < mbrenman001(a)comcast.net > wrote:
What is "the power of large sample"? And of course correlation is not causality.
One can imagine that in the us, transit riders are shorter than car driver s, because of
ethnic difference s in users. And there have been various studies showing a correlation
between height and higher pay, partly due to gender disparities.
Marc brenman
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this may have some value for a journal club - I see flaws at various levels. How it may
contribute to our understanding of any possible relationship between public transport and
health escapes me.
Thomas G?tschi, PhD
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I'm not sure how many on this list follow David Levinson's blog The Transportist
(over here:
https://transportist.org/ ), but he recently published a post about a working
paper he co-authored with Alireza Emragun titled "Transit Makes you Short": On
Health Impact Assessment of Transportation and the Built Environment.
The blog post is here:
https://transportist.org/2016/11/28/u-study-says-transit-does-not-have-impa…
The full paper is here:
http://conservancy.umn.edu/handle/11299/179812
Abstract:
The current research provides a test framework to understand whether and to what extent
increasing public transit use and accessibility by transit affect health. To this end, the
effect of transit mode share and accessibility by transit on general health, body mass
index, and height are investigated, while controlling for socioeconomic, demographic, and
physical activity factors. The coefficient-p-value-sample-size chart is created and effect
size analysis are conducted to explore whether the transit use is practically significant.
Building on the results of the analysis, we found that the transit mode share and
accessibility by transit are not practically significant, and the power of large-sample
misrepresents the effect of transit on public health. The results, also, highlight the
importance of data and variable selection by portraying a significant correlation between
transit use and height in a multivariate regression analysis. What becomes clear from this
study is that!
in spite of the mushrooming interdisciplinary studies in the nexus of transportation and
health arena, researchers often propose short- and long-term policies blindly, while
failing to report the inherent explanatory power of variables. We show that there is a
thin line between false positive and true negative results. From the weakness of p-values
perspective, further, we strove to alert both researchers and practitioners to the
dangerous pitfall deriving from the power of large- samples. Building the results on just
significance and sign of the parameter of interest is worthless, unless the magnitude of
effect size is carefully quantified post analysis.
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