I started the thread about the TIP/STIP management application, and I want to put it to an end. I apologize for my poor judgement. The CTPP list serve is intended for CTPP and Census data matters. I included Elaine Marakami's message to the CTPP list serve about the Association of Metropolitan Planning Organizations (AMPO) list serve. If anyone on this list serve wants to continue the discussion about the TIP/STIP application, please use the AMPO list serve instead. Details are below. Daryl Scott
From: Elaine Murakami [Elaine.Murakami(a)igate.fhwa.dot.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:43 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] MPO listserv?
For lack of another electronic forum, the CTPP listserv has become a place for people to discuss MPO issues unrelated to Census data. However, we would like to keep the CTPP listserv focused on CTPP and Census data.
Alex Taft, the Executive Director of the Association of Metropolitan Planning Organizations (AMPO), has graciously offered to open up their listserv to non-members, since some non-members already belong. Information from AMPO follows:
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From: 596 - Paul Khawli [mailto:pkhawli@lafayettegov.com]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:56 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] to Mr. Glenn Posca
Mr. Glenn
This Paul Khawli, Planner II with the Lafayette Louisiana MPO. I have heard
about your (CTTP) STIP/TIP very successfull management application software.
I would like to have the TIP software program and installation files if u
care to share it.
Thank you in advance
Paul Khawli - 596
Lafayette Consolidated Government
P.O.Box 4017-C
Lafayette, La 70502
Mr. Glenn
This Paul Khawli, Planner II with the Lafayette Louisiana MPO. I have heard
about your (CTTP) STIP/TIP very successfull management application software.
I would like to have the TIP software program and installation files if u
care to share it.
Thank you in advance
Paul Khawli - 596
Lafayette Consolidated Government
P.O.Box 4017-C
Lafayette, La 70502
A colleague just passed along the following:
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The National Cooperative Highway Research Program is calling for proposals to investigate:
Using American Community Survey Data for Transportation Planning
The project statement can be found at:
http://www4.trb.org/trb/crp.nsf/c9d0a412717cf3a68525672f00632fb5/05c679cfe7…
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And so it begins!
Liz Hartmann
Mn/DOT
Research Analysis Specialist
"Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held it's ground" (Anon)
the september issue of the newsletter "status report" is now online. it
can be seen at
http://www.TRBcensus.com/newsltr/sr0902.html
or as a PDF
http://www.TRBcensus.com/newsltr/sr0902.pdf
--
Ed Christopher
Metropolitan Activities
Midwest Resource Center
Federal Highway Administration
19900 Governors Drive
Olympia Fields, Illinois 60461
708-283-3534 (V)
708-283-3501 (F)
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TO: CTPP-News - - September 4, 2002
Today, Summary File #3 (Long Form, sample data) was released for an additional seven states/commonwealths: Arizona, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, Ohio, Puerto Rico, and Wyoming.
The SF3 datasets for 33 of the 52 states/commonwealths/districts have now been released.
New information for today: SF3 data planned for release on 9/17/02 include: Florida, Georgia, Minnesota, Texas, Washington.
The following "Press Release" link will be updated by the Bureau over the next month to provide expected release dates for the remaining states.
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2002/sumfile3.html
The remaining 10 states (for release either 9/24 or 10/1???) include:
Alaska, Arkansas, Hawaii, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Virginia, Wisconsin. (Again, I have no idea which states will be released on 9/24, or the last week of SF3.)
Hope this helps,
Chuck Purvis, MTC
The official population that FHWA is required to use for making the
apportionment of STP attributable funds is the official Census UZA
numbers. The adjusted urbanized / smoothed boundaries do not make any
difference for that apportionment.
Another question from Washington asked if FHWA were going to allow
adjusted UZAs. The 23 USC Section 101 definition of urban area refers to
"...urbanized areas or urban place as designated by the Bureau of the
Census....within boundaries to be fixed by responsible State and local
officals in cooperation with each other subject to approval by the
Secretary." This allows adjusted UZAs but does not require it. If they
are done by the local area, then they do need an approval by FHWA and
FTA.
The metropolitan planning boundaries, UZA plus 20 years of growth, are
still defined by the MPOs and States without an approval from FHWA and
FTA.
Ben Williams, P.E.
Metropolitan Planning Specialist
Federal Highway Administration
Southern Resource Center
V (404) 562-3671
F (404) 562-3700
ben.williams(a)fhwa.dot.gov
Web Site
www.fhwa.dot.gov/resourcecenters/southern
>>> vputta(a)incog.org 08/16/02 11:22AM >>>
I have to add one more question to my previous list: should the state
consider the population of revised/adjusted urbanized area for STP-UZA
allocation? It (the Adjusted UZA) might be strictly for HPMS purpose
only as most would suggest. Thank you everyone.
I am sending this also to the MPO List - as some MPO experts may shed
some more light on the practice. (for those on the MPO list: my
original question was to do with: the State with co-operation from the
MPOs shall fix urbanized area boundaries (smoothing out is the term used
often) - for HPMS or other purposes). Following responses are
self-explanatory.
Viplav Putta
INCOG
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Nancy:
I got the following responses on the issue of smoothing, which may help
others (-VP):
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Glen Ahlert [gahlert(a)swfrpc.org]
The only guidance available from FHWA on this dates from 1991, and still
contains a number of obsolete references. It will also leave a lot of
your questions unanswered, I suspect. You can download it at
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov//////legsregs/directives/fapg/g406300.htm.
You might also want to talk to Bob Diogo (bdiogo(a)swfrpc.org) in this
office, who has been trying to develop smoothed urbanized area and urban
cluster boundaries for this area, about what he has learned and how he's
gone about it.
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John Coil [jcoil(a)drcog.org]
The FHWA requirement for smoothing urbanized areas (or creating
transportation urban areas) was focused as an MPO function in 1975, 1983
and 1992. The MPOs needed to define the transportation urban areas and
then the urban and rural functional classification to determine which
roads were eligible for federal-aid secondary (rural) and federal-aid
urban (urban) funding based on the 1974 Federal-aid Highway Act. The
MPOs paid little attention to the HPMS data reporting requirements.
With the advent of ISTEA in 1992, the need for transportation urban
areas declined to just billboard locations, HPMS data reporting and
speed limit controls. Since, the Census urbanized boundary now controls
billboard locations and the speed controls have been removed. The only
remaining need for transportation urban area definitions is the HPMS
data reporting requirement. BUT, I think FHWA and many MPOs would like
to have a consistent set of transportation urban areas for mapping and
other planning functions.
I do not know about the MPO interests in Oklahoma, but Denver MPO has no
real interest in the urbanized/ transportation urban data reporting. We
need data by the TMA to meet our Congressional transportation planning
requirements. The 1990 Clean Air Act and ISTEA changed the geography we
use in our planning and air quality conformity process. It is too bad
that FHWA did not immediately change the HMPS data reporting
requirements to match federal law.
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Mitchell, Steve R. [Steve.Mitchell(a)ahtd.state.ar.us]
Go to the following link
(http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census/faqa2cdt.htm#20 ) for
information and contacts on the urbanized area boundary smoothing. It
was a very big deal after the 1990 Census and ISTEA because there was a
nation-wide functional reclassification of the entire roadway network.
Back then there was guidance and workshops to help with the process.
The FHWA Division offices (states) are now responsible for assisting the
states and the information given out is very fragmented and confusing
for everyone, not just those who haven't done it before. The
information I have has never given a finite limit to the amount of
adjustment...just that everyone involved must agree that it is
reasonable. The smoothing affects what is classified as urban and rural
by the State and Federal government which affects many things they do
and could affect funding. The smoothing may be done for all areas
classified as urban, not just urbanized areas above 200,000 population.
The smoothing is supposed to be done in cooperation with the MPO in
large areas. Make suggestions to your DOT as you think appropriate to
make data management easier
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Is the 2000 journey-to-work travel patterns data available yet? At any level (city to city, taz to taz, etc.)? When will it be released?
Thanks -
Andy
Andrew Pickard
Senior Transportation Engineer
Hampton Roads Planning District Commission
723 Woodlake Drive
Chesapeake, VA 23320
Phone: (757) 420-8300 Fax: (757) 523-4881
E-mail: apickard(a)hrpdc.org
Web: www.hrpdc.org
Do any transportation planners at MPOs use a TIP/STIP management application that they would highly recommend to other MPOs? The South Western Region Metropolitan Planning Organization has an outstanding contract with a consultant to develop an application to manage the TIP/STIP for the planning region. The application should be able to generate various reports designed for public officials and the general public, keep track of official decisions about projects, store important comments, and have some document management capabilities. I need to provide detailed application specifications to the consultants before they begin work. I hope to get some good ideas from members of this list serve. If you use an excellent TIP/STIP application, please send me some documentation about the program? Thank you in advance for your assistance. Regards, Daryl
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Daryl Scott
South Western Regional Planning Agency
Stamford Government Center
888 Washington Blvd., 3rd Floor
Stamford, CT 06901
Tel: (203) 316-5190
Fax: (203) 316-4995
E-mail: dscott(a)swrpa.org
Subject: New NCHRP Project Statements
The following National Cooperative Highway Research Program Project Statements is now available at: http://www4.trb.org/trb/crp.nsf/rfps
8-48 Using American Community Survey Data for Transportation Planning
Funds available: $300,000
Responses are due on October 17, 2002, 4:00 p.m.
The TRB staff on the project is Ron McCready rmccready(a)nas.edu
