Thanks.
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of
David Lee
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:26 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] RE: MPO's Areas with More Than One Urbanized Area
We have two separate urbanized areas within our MPO boundaries. This is not an easy issue
for our region (Fredericksburg Area MPO: FAMPO) when it involves federal funding issues,
while modeling the region is quite straightforward.
Washington (DC-MD-VA) TMA urbanized area boundary which was out of our region in 1990
Census was expanded to a part of our region (north Stafford county) due to 2000 Census.
This created two separate urbanized areas in FAMPO planning region: one is for the
Stafford portion of Washington TMA and the other for Fredericksburg area.
See the maps:
http://www.epa.gov/npdes/pubs/ua_washington.pdf
http://www.epa.gov/npdes/pubs/ua_fredericksburg.pdf
Due to this change, in 2004, the National Capital Region Transportation Planning Board
(TPB) and
the Fredericksburg Area Metropolitan Planning Organization (FAMPO) entered into a
cooperative agreement which identifies the roles and responsibilities for cooperatively
conducting the metropolitan planning and programming process. The agreement was entered
into to resolve the matter of having a portion of the Washington TMA urbanized area
boundary extend into the northern portion of Stafford County.
FAMPO is a non-TMA, and the agreement commits FAMPO to be responsible for meeting the TMA
responsibilities for planning and programming requirements within the Washington TMA
Urbanized Area of Stafford County. The agreement also requires coordination between both
organizations with respect to the development of the Congestion Management Process, the
Unified Planning Work Program, and during federal certification reviews. Specifically, as
it pertain to the coordination of planning activities, the agreement states that, "
TPB and FAMPO will maintain coordinated, cooperative, and continuing planning processes.
TPB and FAMPO shall coordinate their planning processes and produce required planning
documents on the same cycle, as determined by TPB's current planning cycle." We
recognized that some disconnect between the coordination and cooperation initiatives that
were contained in the agreement and what was actually being practiced. Therefore, we are
under the revision of the agreement.
David J-H. LEE, Ph.D.
Principal Planner
Fredericksburg Area Metropolitan Planning Organization / George Washington Regional
Commission
(540) 373-2890
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Allen, Robert
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 9:48 AM
To: 'ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net'
Subject: [CTPP] RE: MPO's Areas with More Than One Urbanized Area
I am aware of several MPOs in Texas that have more than one urbanized area under a single
MPO. For example, Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston-Galveston, and Austin all have a TMA and one
or more smaller urbanized areas in the same MPO area. Midland-Odessa and Beaumont-Port
Arthur each have more than one non-TMA and no TMA. The keys are the amount of travel
interactivity among the urbanized areas, the reasonableness of having separate plans for
transportation systems for the urbanized areas, and in the case of smaller urbanized
areas, the feasibility of funding a separate planning organization. However, regardless
of the objective rationales for integrating transportation systems planning among
urbanized areas in the same metropolitan area, there are often political rivalries that
must be carefully negotiated and all public decisions are ultimately made in a political
context.
Robert R. Allen, AICP
Abilene MPO Transportation Planning Director
400 Oak St. #102, Abilene, TX 79602
Phone 325-676-6243
Fax 325-676-6398
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Smith, Robert
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:59 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] MPO's Areas with More Than One Urbanized Area
CTTP List Serv:
I was wondering if there are any MPO's out there that have more than one urbanized
area in your area and if so how is this handled? I am also seeking opinions of other MPO
professionals about the pro's and con's of having two in one MPO area, especially
if they are not contiguous to each other based on the urban area criteria.
Thanks,
Robert
Robert E. Smith Jr.
Senior Transportation Planner, MPO Administrator
Planning and Development Department
Transportation Planning Division Head
City of Montgomery/MPO
Intermodal Transportation Facility
495 Molton Street
Montgomery, AL 36104
Phone: (334) 241-2249
Fax: (334) 241-2326
Email: rsmith@montgomeryal.gov<mailto:rsmith@montgomeryal.gov>
City of Montgomery website:
http://montgomeryal.gov/index.aspx?page=205
MPO website:
http://www.montgomerympo.org