RE: [CTPP] October 3 is the next scheduled release ofACStablesincluding PLACE OF WORK!

Dear Tom, Just ask the Census Bureau Data Users Division for qualifications to be included in the Pre-Embargo List. As I (as FSCPE and REAC members) know, many organizations such as SDC, FSCPE, news/press organizations, and many others are on the lists by signing a News Release Embargo Agreement. If you have very good reasons (representing many data users) to be included, you should pursue. Just get to the Embargo website from the Census Bureau's homepage and contact the person in charge. Good luck. ________________________________ Richard Lin, Ph.D. Demographer Colorado Department of Local Affairs Division of Local Government 1313 Sherman Street, Room 521 Denver, CO 80203 Phone: (303)866-4989 Fax:: (303)866-2660 richard.lin(a)state.co.us www.DOLA.Colorado.Gov I agree with Ed. This is a problem, and I remember commenting about it extensively following the 2000 Census data started being released. Perhaps there's an opportunity to collectively ask the appropriate agency/agencies to see if there is a way that professionals can receive the data prior to or at the same time as the press. I have since forgotten about how/why this embargo thing occurs, but it would save us a lot of time explaining and correcting things after-the- fact. --Tom Tom Reinauer, Transportation Director Southern Maine RPC & Kittery Area MPO 21 Bradeen St. Suite 304 Springvale, ME 04083 (207)324-2952 Ext. 18 (207)324-2958 fax treinauer(a)smrpc.org www.smrpc.org -----Original Message----- From: ed christopher [mailto:edc@berwyned.com] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:11 AM To: Alan Pisarski Cc: Srinivasan, Nanda; ctpp-news maillist; 'Murakami,Elaine'; North,Joel; Phil Salopek Subject: Re: [CTPP] October 3 is the next scheduled release ofACStablesincluding PLACE OF WORK! This has always been the issue. The press gets the data early as embargoed and then the transportation folks get torpedoed and don't have a chance to respond because they haven't seen the data. Case in point. The Atlanta Journal Constitution ran an article about one county leading the nation with a 51 minute travel time. Well after the story broke Joel North from GDOT and Nandu Srinivasan used PUMs to learn the data looked funny. There were way too many 150 minute type commutes. The data did not make sense and with sampling things can happen. Elaine Murakami then found out from Phil that indeed something was wrong. The CB had a bad coder survey taker at the front end, going through retraining and trying to figure out how to deal with the data.. The point however, is if the "public agency" transportation community had the data when the press had it we may have been able to inform what became a very misleading article. Another point--People do need to look at the data. I have playing with the rank of all 775 counties that have data by their mean travel time. American Factfinder has a lot on it. The article can be found at (You do have to register for a fee) 51.6 MINUTES :Commute time report stumps Coweta officials Date: September 7, 2006 http://nl.newsbank.com/nojavascript.html Land of the long commute: Georgia is No. 1 in counties with time-wasting trips to work. The sprawl makes homes affordable, but the crawl drives down the quality of life. Date: August 31, 2006 http://nl.newsbank.com/nojavascript.html Alan Pisarski wrote: tabulation is by included -- Ed Christopher FHWA Resource Center 19900 Governors Drive Olympia Fields, Illinois 60461 708-283-3534 (v) 708-283-3501 (f) 708-574-8131 (cell) _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net http://www.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net http://www.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news