Ken: re Railroad I would make it both railroad and long distance commuter rail service. people in Balt take Amtrak to DC as well as MARC. use a comma. Alan
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From: Ken.Cervenka(a)dot.gov [mailto:Ken.Cervenka@dot.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 07:59 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] ACS: Means of Transportation Categories
Hello Tom and all,
Agencies must send justification for proposed revisions or new content to OMB and the Census Bureau by June 14, 2013. The intent is for U.S. DOT (via BTS) to formally submit the ?please include light rail? request. Based on various discussions that have taken place (particularly those on this listserv), here are the (current) proposed modifications to the three rail transit categories in the Means of Transportation Question 31 (with all other modal groups to be unchanged):
__ Rail: light rail, streetcar, or trolley (a change from the current ?Streetcar or trolley car?)
__ Rail: subway or elevated (a change from the current ?Subway or elevated?)
__ Rail: long-distance commuter service (a change from the current ?Railroad?)
Assuming OMB approves a ?cognitive testing? program, the exact wording of whatever eventually goes ?final? will of course depend on the test results. I sure don?t want to stretch this out to the point of missing the June 14 deadline, but it may be useful to subject this to another round of public vetting on the CTPP listserv. So: what do you all think?
Ken Cervenka
FTA Office of Planning and Environment
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net]On Behalf Of TMarchwinski(a)njtransit.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:38 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: Re: [CTPP] County Commuting Flows
Penelope- I found this email from a few months ago, and would like to let you know that NJT uses CTPP 3 year data to show broad county to county flows for Trans-Hudson transit planning. We used the 2006-08 data to show trends since 2000 in where commuting to Manhattan and other key areas has changed. We also saw that there was a shift to bus and rail commuting, vs. auto for this market in most counties. The 3 year is helpful for understanding broad trends, and specific changes. I noticed with the 5 year flow data at the county level that we saw changes related to the Great Recession. Since the 5 year data has the 3 year data imbedded as part of the 5 year data, I have looked at the difference between the 5 year and 3 year data to surmise changes between 2008 and 2010. I know statistically this may not be totally accurate, but we have seen a drop in total work trips from some counties from the 3 year to the 5 year data, and some increases in others. The numbers made sense because close in, more urban counties still increased the number of work trips to Manhattan, while mostly further out areas which were hit hard in the recession by defaults, and aging population showed a decline compared to 3 year data, but still an increase compared to 2000.
The new procedure to make CTPP continue as a research project is a good one. Also I am happy to see Light Rail will be tested for inclusion in the Census. I brought this up back in 2007/2008 with Elaine Murakami of FHWA who was supportive, but we could not get FTA interested. I had and extensive conversation and email exchange with FTA on this issue (Ken Cervanka), and was involved in an online debate on this. My understanding is that the census will not allow an increase in the number of modes, but will allow Light Rail to be added. The issue was how do you classify all of the other modes, and my point was that railroad should be changed to commuter or regional rail (including Intercity), then there was bus; Light rail , Trolley, or streetcar; subway or elevated; and then Ferry I believe. Can you tell me of the status of when Light Rail will be tested, and also how it will be shown, as a separate mode, or with trolley or streetcar (which is where it belongs in my opinion). Some of the federal types wanted streetcar as a separate mode, which I did not believe made sense given its small amount of ridership, and also the fact that its more like light rail and Light Rail is much bigger in usage. Thanks for any information you can provide.
Thomas Marchwinski
Senior Director, Forecasting and Research
NJ Transit, Newark, NJ
From:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net]On Behalf Of Weinberger, Penelope
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:54 AM
To:ctpp-news@chrispy.net
Subject: Re: [CTPP] County Commuting Flows
As Liang said, the next CTPP is due in mid 2013. It will be based on five year ACS from 2006 ? 2010 and include small area data.
In answer to the larger question; the CTPP program at AASHTO was recently transformed to an ongoing technical services program. As you rightly point out, this follows the change at CB to an ongoing survey methodology. The CTPP is historically user directed and wishes to continue to be so. So I have two things to throw out there:
One, please share the value of the program with your decision makers ? when we come for funding, help them get to yes!
Two, please let me know how you have used the three year data and if it is useful to have along with the planned five year data ? the difference between the sets is the three year is more frequent, while the five year covers all geography.
Thanks!
Penelope Z. Weinberger
CTPP Program Manager
AASHTO
202-624-3556
ctpp.transportation.org
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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:55 PM
To:ctpp-news@chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] County Commuting Flows
Is there any information about production of the CTTP or the county-to-county commuting flows more than once every ten years? Since they are based on the annual ACS there is an opportunity for more frequent updates than in the past. What are the current plans?
Dan Estersohn
Senior Demographer
Arbitron Inc
9705 Patuxent Woods Drive
Columbia, MD 21046
410-312-8434
Dan.Estersohn(a)Arbitron.com
Is there any information about production of the CTTP or the county-to-county commuting flows more than once every ten years? Since they are based on the annual ACS there is an opportunity for more frequent updates than in the past. What are the current plans?
Dan Estersohn
Senior Demographer
Arbitron Inc
9705 Patuxent Woods Drive
Columbia, MD 21046
410-312-8434
Dan.Estersohn(a)Arbitron.com
Indeed, we've been tracking on the erosion of various US statistical programs over at Free Government Information (a blog by several govt information/data librarians). See for example:
Fear, uncertainty, or doubt? Why the Census and ACS are critical to a well-functioning democracy
http://freegovinfo.info/node/3715
Best,
James Jacobs
From: alanpisarski(a)alanpisarski.com
Subject: Re: [CTPP] Congress and Killing Census Sample Surveys
Date: May 13, 2013 4:42:25 AM PDT
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
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Ed: this is what Duncan says in the statement you included. we in our profession should be smart enough to either support or refute this argument.
Those who oppose Duncan?s legislation claim that our nation would miss out on vital economic data. Duncan objects to this contention, and believes there are other ways to gather information that does not involve harassing or threatening individuals to turn over personal data. ?As a former small business owner, I recognize that some economic data gathering is beneficial. However, it should be voluntary, industry driven, and not mandated by the government under penalty of law. I?m confident in our ability to develop innovative ways to gather information without harassing people, invading their privacy, or threatening them with fines. Americans are tired of too much government meddling in their daily lives.?
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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:10 AM
To: 'ctpp-news maillist'
Subject: [CTPP] Congress and Killing Census Sample Surveys
I got this from my Association of Public Data Users newsletter and thought the topic would be of interest to those on this list. Does anyone know of any MPOs, agencies or others who have contacted Congress to express their opinions on this? Either Pro? or Con? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: APDU Data Update Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 15:21:45 -0400 From: Association of Public Data Users (APDU) To: *New Bill Seeks to End Surveys* Ten Congressional representatives sponsor legislation to eliminate Department of Commerce-sponsored surveys. The bill would eliminate the Census of Agriculture, the Economic Census, Census of Government, any mid-decade Census surveys, and any survey (including the American Community Survey) using survey sampling that does not tie directly to the decennial census of population. View the actual bill here . The Bill was introduced in the House by Jeff Duncan of South Carolina. Find his views on the bill on his website here . Here are a few news stories and blogs who have reported on the bill: * A New GOP Bill Would Prevent the Government from Collecting Economic Data * Hero: Rep. Jeff Duncan (R:SC) * GOP Census Bill Would Eliminate America's Economic Indicators * 11 Republican Congressmen Are Sponsoring a Bill That Would End The Jobs Report and The GDP Report * GOP Proposal Would Eliminate Unemployment Numbers * The Insane War on the American Community Survey Isn't Over * Benefits of Census Surveys Outweigh Costs * BRILLIANT!! GOP Reveals Unique Solution to Unemployment! * Duncan, Other GOP Congressmen, Don't Like Census Questionnaire * Where Have I Heard This Before? (or, History Repeats Itself) We would greatly appreciate your feedback on how this bill might affect economic and workforce development efforts. Send feedback here . -- Ed Christopher 708-283-3534 (V) 708-574-8131 (cell) FHWA RC-TST-PLN 4749 Lincoln Mall Drive, Suite 600 Matteson, IL 60443 _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news@ryoko.chrispy.nethttp://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news
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Ed: this is what Duncan says in the statement you included. we in our profession should be smart enough to either support or refute this argument.
Those who oppose Duncan?s legislation claim that our nation would miss out on vital economic data. Duncan objects to this contention, and believes there are other ways to gather information that does not involve harassing or threatening individuals to turn over personal data. ?As a former small business owner, I recognize that some economic data gathering is beneficial. However, it should be voluntary, industry driven, and not mandated by the government under penalty of law. I?m confident in our ability to develop innovative ways to gather information without harassing people, invading their privacy, or threatening them with fines. Americans are tired of too much government meddling in their daily lives.?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Christopher [mailto:edc@berwyned.com]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:10 AM
To: 'ctpp-news maillist'
Subject: [CTPP] Congress and Killing Census Sample Surveys
I got this from my Association of Public Data Users newsletter and thought the topic would be of interest to those on this list. Does anyone know of any MPOs, agencies or others who have contacted Congress to express their opinions on this? Either Pro? or Con?-------- Original Message --------Subject: APDU Data UpdateDate: Thu, 09 May 2013 15:21:45 -0400From: Association of Public Data Users (APDU) To: *New Bill Seeks to End Surveys*Ten Congressional representatives sponsor legislation to eliminateDepartment of Commerce-sponsored surveys. The bill would eliminate theCensus of Agriculture, the Economic Census, Census of Government, anymid-decade Census surveys, and any survey (including the AmericanCommunity Survey) using survey sampling that does not tie directly tothe decennial census of population. View the actual bill here.The Bill was introduced in the House by Jeff Duncan of South Carolina.Find his views on the bill on his website here.Here are a few news stories and blogs who have reported on the bill: * A New GOP Bill Would Prevent the Government from Collecting Economic Data * Hero: Rep. Jeff Duncan (R:SC) * GOP Census Bill Would Eliminate America's Economic Indicators * 11 Republican Congressmen Are Sponsoring a Bill That Would End The Jobs Report and The GDP Report * GOP Proposal Would Eliminate Unemployment Numbers * The Insane War on the American Community Survey Isn't Over * Benefits of Census Surveys Outweigh Costs * BRILLIANT!! GOP Reveals Unique Solution to Unemployment! * Duncan, Other GOP Congressmen, Don't Like Census Questionnaire * Where Have I Heard This Before? (or, History Repeats Itself)We would greatly appreciate your feedback on how this bill might affecteconomic and workforce development efforts. Send feedback here.-- Ed Christopher708-283-3534 (V)708-574-8131 (cell)FHWA RC-TST-PLN4749 Lincoln Mall Drive, Suite 600Matteson, IL 60443_______________________________________________ctpp-news mailing listctpp-news@ryoko.chrispy.nethttp://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news
Can someone please tell me quickly:
Can I get the new 06-10 commuting flows data for the City of Detroit
vis-a-vis surrounding counties? If so, where's the file? I looked on AFF
and didn't see it.
Thanks.
Patty Becker
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Patricia C. (Patty) Becker
APB Associates/Southeast Michigan Census Council (SEMCC)
28300 Franklin Rd, Southfield, MI 48034
office: 248-354-6520
home:248-355-2428
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Apologies for cross posting. This comes via Andy Rohne. I think it will
benefit the CTPP, TMIP and H+T community since there will data users from
different industries and we can learn from each other. The good part is
that it is not another email list but rather a Q&A site where answers are
voted up or down and people have an interest in giving credible answers to
maintain and increase their reputation. I use stack overflow extensively
and have found it to be extremely useful.
http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/51674/open-data?referrer=pQZ2DWiJ…
Krishnan
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Krishnan Viswanathan
5628 Burnside Circle
Tallahassee FL 32312
This may be of interest to some.
Ed Christopher
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