Lance, I think Elaine did not notice that you are not from an MPO or State DOT. The Census Bureau released "evaluation" copies of Part 1 of CTPP 2000 to MPOs and State DOTs in July-August 2003. Because you belong to an academic institution, you can request a copy of the Part 1 CD-ROM for your area from the local MPO or the state DOT. As Elaine pointed out, we found errors in some of the tables for Part 1. Census Bureau will be correcting all the errors, and releasing final Part 1 CDs, after they complete production of Part 2 data. Both for Part 1 and Part 2, We are NOT providing the FLAT ASCII (or any other format) files on an FTP site, because the data are very large. This is why we want you to request a CD-ROM containing the FLAT ASCII files from the Census Bureau, once the finals are ready (Clara Reschovsky e:mail: clara.a.reschovsky(a)census.gov phone-301-763-2454). For agencies other than MPOs, and State DOTs, the Census Bureau may charge a processing fee for the CDs. Please note that the CTPP Access Tool allows you to "batch export" tables into flat ASCII files (along with data dictionary/README files that explain the data formats). If you have questions on how to perform this, please call/e-mail me (please make sure these e-mails are addressed to me and not the whole listserve). Thank you Nanda Srinivasan 202-366-5021 -----Original Message----- From: Huntley, Lance [mailto:HuntleyL@umsystem.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:33 PM To: Murakami, Elaine Cc: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: RE: [CTPP] ASCII files and status update Are the CTPP 2000 Part 2 Files going to be shipped out in cd-rom format, or will there be FTP access to the data? -----Original Message----- From: Murakami, Elaine [mailto:Elaine.Murakami@fhwa.dot.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 3:08 PM To: Huntley, Lance Cc: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: RE: [CTPP] ASCII files and status update To request a FLAT ASCII version of the data, please direct your request to Clara Reschovsky at the Census Bureau. clara.a.reschovsky(a)census.gov phone 301-763-2454. Please note, the Census Bureau has recently found several errors in the CTPP Part 1 data files. Phil Salopek will be posting a list of the problematic tables, and geographic summary levels VERY SOON. Many of the errors will have a neglible effect, however, Table 1-80 all the cells are incorrectly labeled, and in Table 1-106 the median travel time was incorrectly tabulated. However, I have asked the Census Bureau to get the Part 2 data files out first, before FINALIZING the Part 1 datasets with the corrections. We NOW expect CTPP 2000 Part 2 files to begin release before Thanksgiving, running through the end of calendar 2003, using approximately the same priority as for the Part 1 files (States with very large population and fastest growth areas released first). -----Original Message----- From: Huntley, Lance [mailto:HuntleyL@umsystem.edu] Sent: Wed 10/29/2003 2:48 PM To: Cc: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: RE: [CTPP] Metro Area Pop 1990-2000 When can we expect to be able to download the official CTPP2000 data from an ftp site in flat ascii format? And will there be a reference file to indicate what the variables/headers are comprising the columns in the ascii format? On the CTPP beta cd I am using I couldn't see variable descriptions on the flat ascii files -- no variable headers, or relationship field and file! The flat ascii format for multiple states is what we typically access from the bureau when we put together our data and geography files. And since we have to deal with a three state area, a one-stop file location has always been the best way for us to get our data.