While I appreciate hearing about the various methods of converting the UA data with third party converters, I am still most interested in finding out how this might be accomplished using the ArcView 3.2 or Arc8 software, in which we have already invested many thousands of dollars. Frankly, I don't have the budget to purchase any of the additional products that have been mentioned so far. I was under the assumption that the Census Bureau was partnering with ESRI (or vice-versa) so that the users of the products would have easy use of one with the other. So far, "easy" is not one of the words I would use to describe the experience I have had with this. This could not be much more complicated than it is now. Please keep the suggestions coming- I am hoping to find something soon that works. Lesley Hegewald Associate GIS Analyst/Data Specialist Mid-Willamette Valley Council of Governments 105 High Street SE Salem, OR 97301 (503)588-6177 phone (503)588-6094 fax lhegewald(a)open.org Hi: The solution for us in getting our 2000 urbanized areas in ArcView shp format was to purchase (actually, upgrade to) the commercial third-party software TGR2SHP (version 4.2) from www.gistools.com. Very easy to use, especially for non-GIS folks like myself. As I understand it, this is the software that ESRI will (or perhaps eventually) use to create the urbanized areas for downloading on their www.geographynetwork.com site. I wouldn't recommend the older TIGER translators available on ESRI's site. They were built for TIGER/Line '97 and older! (Pardon the commercial plug.) cheers, Chuck Purvis *********************************************** Charles L. Purvis, AICP Senior Transportation Planner/Analyst Metropolitan Transportation Commission 101 Eighth Street Oakland, CA 94607-4700 (510) 464-7731 (office) (510) 464-7848 (fax) www: http://www.mtc.ca.gov/ Census WWW: http://census.mtc.ca.gov/ ***********************************************