Could this relate to the ancient daytime pop calculations done by Phil
Fulton when he was JTW chief. That included or was meant to include school
pop. AEP
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On Behalf Of Bob Paddock
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 2:43 PM
To: edc(a)berwyned.com; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: Re: [CTPP] Release of Census 2000 Data Product on Daytime
Population
Ed,
MY guess is that you are "on the mark" in this regard. That is the
approach that I seem to understand from what has been given below.
I received two separate inquiries back in July about the "daytime
population of downtown Minneapolis". My response was to question their
definition of "daytime population" and indicated that the only
information I had available to me was the CTPP "Journey-to-Work"
tabulations. I made it clear that this did NOT include other trip
purposes to downtown, such as shopping, non-home but work-related trips
and the like.
I suppose that as long as all regions are treated likewise, you could
at least get some comparative measurement of this information.
Bob Paddock
Transportation Research
Metropolitan Council
230 East 5th Street
St. Paul, MN 55107-1633
651 602-1340
>> Ed Christopher <edc(a)berwyned.com>
10/20/05 11:28AM >>>
This is interesting but I wonder how it would compare
or relate to
CTPP
data. From the posting I am not quite sure what the CB is including
as
daytime population. Thinking in CTPP terms I would take what I call
CTPP
Part 2 workers for any given area and add to it some portion of the
Part 1
non- workers and then sum them together as my daytime population. Do
you
think this is what the CB did?
Chuck Purvis wrote:
This is a message sent to the State Data Center
listserv this
morning,
10/20/05:
FROM THE DESK OF STANLEY J. ROLARK
CHIEF, CUSTOMER LIAISON OFFICE
October 20, 2005
Subject: Release of Census 2000 Data Product on
Daytime Population
The Census Bureau will be releasing later today or tomorrow, Census
2000
data on the daytime population. The data are being released for all
counties (or co. equivs.) by state in the U.S. There are also
subtotal
lines for each state and for the U.S. as a whole.
There are data for
the
municipios in Puerto Rico, and a total for Puerto Rico.
There are data for places (incorp. and CDPs) in the U.S. by state,
but
no
place data for Puerto Rico. The universe is places with either 2,500
workers living in the place or 2,500 workers working in the place.
There will be three separate Excel files. They will be accessible
through
the Subjects A to Z index, from a link entitled Daytime Population.
Table 1 is a summary for places by size. All places > 250,000 are
shown,
in three size classes. Places less than 250,000 are shown in six
size
classes, but only the first twenty based on percent increase in
daytime
pop are shown for each size in Table 1.
Table 2 shows all counties by state in the U.S. and Puerto Rico.
Table 3 shows places with 2,500 workers living in or working in,
by
state, for the U.S. (not PR).
The data product was developed by the Journey to Work and Migration
Statistics Branch in Population Division. The data were developed by
combining the Census 2000 data on the residence population with the
Census
2000 sample data on place of work. The estimates of daytime
population
to
be released by the Census Bureau only adjust resident populations
for
travel into or out of an area for work purposes. No
adjustment is
made
for
travel to school, shopping, recreation, tourism, health care or for
any
other trip purpose. The data sources required for making these
adjustments
are not available on a consistent, nationwide basis. Furthermore,
the
adjustments to resident population reflected in these
"daytime"
population
estimates do not take the time of day work trips are made into
account.
The
simplifying assumption is made that all workers leave the area in
the
morning and return to the area in the evening.
The release will include data items on the number of workers working
in
the
area, the number of workers living in the area, the estimated
daytime
population, the number and percent change due to
commuting, the
number
and
percent of the workers who lived in the area that also worked in the
area,
and the employment-residence ratio (workers working in/workers
living
in).
The data are likely to be released with a press release but with no
press
embargo. While you will be receiving a copy of the press release as
part
of our normal procedures, I did want to provide you with a "heads
up" about
this release as you may receive questions and/or have an interest in
this
release. Census Bureau contact information regarding this release
will
be
included at the top of the press release.
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