Hi: The solution for us in getting our 2000 urbanized areas in ArcView shp format was to purchase (actually, upgrade to) the commercial third-party software TGR2SHP (version 4.2) from www.gistools.com. Very easy to use, especially for non-GIS folks like myself. As I understand it, this is the software that ESRI will (or perhaps eventually) use to create the urbanized areas for downloading on their www.geographynetwork.com site. I wouldn't recommend the older TIGER translators available on ESRI's site. They were built for TIGER/Line '97 and older! (Pardon the commercial plug.) cheers, Chuck Purvis *********************************************** Charles L. Purvis, AICP Senior Transportation Planner/Analyst Metropolitan Transportation Commission 101 Eighth Street Oakland, CA 94607-4700 (510) 464-7731 (office) (510) 464-7848 (fax) www: http://www.mtc.ca.gov/ Census WWW: http://census.mtc.ca.gov/ ***********************************************