Wendell, here is what the rule says... It's sorta clear as mud. Maybe someone can clarify. ----------------- Challenges That Result in Corrections The Census Bureau will issue corrected CQR counts based on the housing unit and population counts as of April 1, 2010. The governmental units may use new official census counts for all programs requiring official 2010 Census data. The Census Bureau will not make corrections to the 2010 population counts for individual housing units or GQs, or corrections to the characteristics of the population and housing inventory. The Census Bureau will modify the decennial file with the CQR corrections for use in generating the 2012 postcensal estimates. The American FactFinder will provide the inventory of corrections as errata to the original data. The Census Bureau will not revise 2010 Census base files, 2010 Census apportionment counts, redistricting data, or 2010 Census data products. The Census Bureau will send a letter with a certification of the population, housing and group quarters counts for all jurisdictions affected by the results of a CQR challenge. --------------------- -- Ed Christopher FHWA Resource Center Planning Team 4749 Lincoln Mall Drive, Suite 600 Matteson, IL 60443 708-283-3534 (V) 708-574-8131 (C)

Actually, it looks pretty clear. There will be a 4-1 count.. and a base county for later estimates. That is how it was in 2000. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Ed Christopher <edc(a)berwyned.com> wrote: -- -- Wendell Cox Demographia | Wendell Cox Consultancy - St. Louis Missouri-Illinois metropolitan region Visiting Professor, Conservatoire National des Arts et Metiers, Paris +1.618 632 8507 www.demographia.com | www.publicpurpose.com | www.rentalcartours.net Books & Publications WAR ON THE DREAM: How Anti-Sprawl Policy Threatens the Quality of Life http://www.demographia.com/wod1.pdf 7th ANNUAL DEMOGRAPHIA INTERNATIONAL HOUSING AFFORDABILITY SURVEY ( http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf) THE WAL-MART REVOLUTION: How Big-Box Stores Benefit Consumers, Workers, and the Economy By Richard Vedder & Wendell Cox

Robert-- Sounds familiar, we discovered thousands of apparently homeless Michigan State University students were actually residing in steam tunnels underground beneath Spartan Stadium-- instead of their student housing complexes, and probably for similar reasons. Admittedly, there have been reports of few drunken escapades in University lore about those tunnels allegedly under the stadium-- but those events (if true) typically weren't the kinds of things that would get reported to any federal Bureau on Census day....... Paul T. Hamilton, Chief Planner Tri-County Regional Planning Commission 913. W. Holmes Rd. Ste. 201 Lansing MI 48910 phamilton(a)mitcrpc.org Phone: 517.393.0342 Fax: 517.393.4424 web: www.mitcrpc.org -----Original Message----- From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Allen, Robert. Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:01 PM To: 'ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net' Subject: RE: [CTPP] Rules for 2010 Count Question Resolution Program This appears to be similar to the 2000 program. We had some significant misassignments of data that affected census tracts and smaller units, in one case in a monster fashion. (Someone at the Bureau made a manual change that resulted in geocoding an entire prison population of over 4,000 into a tiny empty block across the highway from the prison instead of the special tract that had been created for it. One of the results was that we were reported to have one of the ten highest population density blocks in the nation.) The Census Bureau said that it would only make revisions if the misgeocoded counts changed the totals for political jurisdictions and even those revisions would not be included in any products that were produced in the Census year, 2000, nor would those products be later revised. We have spent the last ten years repeatedly explaining why some of our local data differed from the official census counts and why our counts are actually correct. Robert R. Allen, AICP Abilene MPO 400 Oak St. #102, Abilene, TX 79602 Phone 325-676-6243 Fax 325-676-6398 -----Original Message----- From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Ed Christopher Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:31 AM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: Re: [CTPP] Rules for 2010 Count Question Resolution Program Wendell, here is what the rule says... It's sorta clear as mud. Maybe someone can clarify. ----------------- Challenges That Result in Corrections The Census Bureau will issue corrected CQR counts based on the housing unit and population counts as of April 1, 2010. The governmental units may use new official census counts for all programs requiring official 2010 Census data. The Census Bureau will not make corrections to the 2010 population counts for individual housing units or GQs, or corrections to the characteristics of the population and housing inventory. The Census Bureau will modify the decennial file with the CQR corrections for use in generating the 2012 postcensal estimates. The American FactFinder will provide the inventory of corrections as errata to the original data. The Census Bureau will not revise 2010 Census base files, 2010 Census apportionment counts, redistricting data, or 2010 Census data products. The Census Bureau will send a letter with a certification of the population, housing and group quarters counts for all jurisdictions affected by the results of a CQR challenge. --------------------- tinfo/ctpp-news _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net http://www.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news

I think that 2010 Census Summary File 1 scheduled for release in June 2011 has it. Bob Schwartz, Data Administrator Phone: (412) 391-5590 Ext 336 Southwestern Pennsylvania Commission FAX: (412) 391-9160 Regional Enterprise Tower E-mail: schwartz(a)spcregion.org 425 Sixth Avenue, Suite 2500 SPC web address: www.spcregion.org Pittsburgh, PA 15219-1852 My normal hours: Mon-Fri 7:15-3:30 -----Original Message----- From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Byrnes Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:18 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: RE: [CTPP] Rules for 2010 Count Question Resolution Program Does anyone know the expected schedule for producing the block-level data with group quarter counts by block? It would seem that this won't be released until after this QRP effort. Kevin F. Byrnes, AICP Director of Regional Planning & Regional Demographer George Washington Regional Commission (GWRC) 406 Princess Anne St Fredericksburg VA 22401 Ph (540) 373-2890 (ext 18) Fax (540) 899-4808 -----Original Message----- From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Ed Christopher Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:46 AM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: [CTPP] Rules for 2010 Count Question Resolution Program Today--the Census Bureau published its final rules concerning the Count Question Resolution (CQR)Program. The CQR Program will address requests for corrections to the 2010 Census count of housing units and/or group quarters (GQs) and associated population, based on three types of challenges (1) boundary, (2) geocoding, and (3) coverage. According to the Notice, the CQR Program is not a mechanism or process to challenge or revise the population counts sent to the President by December 31. http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2011/2011-5217.htm http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2011/pdf/2011-5217.pdf -- Ed Christopher FHWA Resource Center Planning Team 4749 Lincoln Mall Drive, Suite 600 Matteson, IL 60443 708-283-3534 (V) 708-574-8131 (C) _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net http://www.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net http://www.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news

According to the Register Notice...In May 2011, the Census Bureau will release the ``Advance Release of Group Quarters Data from Summary File1''to the public through a file transfer protocol (ftp)site. The ftp site is a link to a location at a Census Bureau network server. Users go to the link and download data from electronic folders. Many data users have automatic programs to retrieve data at certain time intervals. This GQ file will include block-level GQ counts by GQ type. The Demographic Profile table, which contains selected population and housing characteristics, will also be released in May 2011. The release of Summary File 1 (SF1) on a flow basis to States will occur between June and August 2011. The SF1 will contain block-level housing unit and GQ counts. -- Ed Christopher FHWA Resource Center Planning Team 4749 Lincoln Mall Drive, Suite 600 Matteson, IL 60443 708-283-3534 (V) 708-574-8131 (C)