This all is a familiar phenomenon in the Burlington, VT area. Housing in the county is sky rocketing in costs and people are moving out to adjacent and even further away. Commutes are getting longer. William L Knight, Executive Director Chittenden County Metropolitan Planning Organization 30 Kimball Avenue South Burlington, VT 05403 (802) 660-4071, Ext. 228 (802) 660-4079 Fax wknight(a)ccmpo.org www.ccmpo.org -----Original Message----- From: ALAN E. PISARSKI [mailto:pisarski@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:50 AM To: Sam Granato Cc: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: Re: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000 All good thoughts. We saw this in New Hampshire also - the family home that is rich in sentiment but cant get much on the market vs a suburban house you cant afford. Answer: Stay and commute. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam <mailto:Sam.Granato@dot.state.oh.us> Granato To: ALAN E. <mailto:pisarski@ix.netcom.com> PISARSKI Cc: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net <mailto:ctpp-news@chrispy.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000 I had already noted for Wheeling model development that commuting to counties in Pennsylvania doubled from 1990 to 2000! But to address the general point, seems there's two trends at work - in stagnant regional economies, workers try to avoid moving when by choice or force they take that more distant job (in addition to all the "rural community" issues, what kind of price would you get for your house in a stagnant or declining economy?). And in booming regions, the cost of buying a new house becomes the problem. Lack of space and "gov'mint regulation" are the usually-cited culprits, but maybe we've also gotten to the point where NIMBYism and the "growth controls" it leads to are having an impact in the imbalance between housing supply and demand. Sam Granato Ohio DOT, Office of Technical Services 1980 W. Broad Street, Columbus, OH 43223 Phone: 614-644-6796, Fax: 614-752-8646 "The solution to congestion is to put private business in charge of building roads and the government in charge of building cars." Will Rogers "ALAN E. PISARSKI" &lt;pisarski(a)ix.netcom.com&gt; Sent by: owner-ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net 06/03/03 08:07 AM To: "Hartgen, David" &lt;dthartge(a)email.uncc.edu&gt;du>, &lt;ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net&gt; cc: &lt;Elaine.Murakami(a)fhwa.dot.gov&gt; Subject: Re: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000 Dave: This has seen rather dramatic change nationally. Of the 13.2 million new commuters more than half were intercounty, 6.7 meg; raising the share of intercounty from to 23.9% to 26.7%. Some states have seen explosions in this area. Ohio, Va. etc. A lot of this can be an accidental product of geog. (East vs West States) but there is something else going on -- much of it I believe is rural workers heading to the metro suburbs for work. Note W Va had largest increase in trav times - that wasn't congestion in Wheeling.Also think of the car plants in the south. I recall someone saying that all but 3 of the 104 counties in Ky sent workers to the Georgetown car plant. I intend to spend a lot of time on this in Commuting in America III. I will look forward to your work - and steal from it shamelessly. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartgen, David" &lt;dthartge(a)email.uncc.edu&gt; To: &lt;ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net&gt; Cc: &lt;Elaine.Murakami(a)fhwa.dot.gov&gt; Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 2:39 PM Subject: [CTPP] RE: County-to-county worker flow data, 2000 100 similar The use