Re: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ?

Block-level data of group qrtrs pop by type is available from the 2010 Census Advance Group Quarters Summary File (see: http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/doc/gqsf.pdf) Since many college students have vehicles parked near their dorms (e.g. at Michigan State Univ, my alma mater) college student vehicle trips should be part of the travel demand analysis. Kevin F. Byrnes, AICP Director of Regional Planning & Regional Demographer George Washington Regional Commission (GWRC) 406 Princess Anne St Fredericksburg VA 22401 Ph (540) 373-2890 (ext 18) Fax (540) 899-4808 From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Patricia Becker Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:19 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: Re: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ? You get population but no housing when the entire population is in group quarters. Leave the GQ out of the vehicles per household calculation, although it is definitely possible that people in college GQ have vehicles. Since you're in Michigan, if you'd like me to help you some more, give me a call at 248-354-6520. Patty Becker On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:19 PM, hprawiranata mitcrpc.org<http://mitcrpc.org> <hprawiranata@mitcrpc.org<mailto:hprawiranata@mitcrpc.org>> wrote: If you see on my screenshot (table on the right), how can CB put population number but no houses ? On residential areas I checked randomly (20-30 samples), the CB block level data is correct or close, census block said 12 houses and my parcel data shows the same number. I have to create new aggregate based on zip from block data for calculating number of vehicle per household (I got sanitized (name and address removed) vehicle registrations only zip for location). University, Colleges are not included (special generators). I just found out strange campus population at block level and I'm wondering the implications. For block group (wide campus area), it does not include block with high population (dorms) and it is wrong. Hary On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:23 PM, <Elaine.Murakami@dot.gov<mailto:Elaine.Murakami@dot.gov>> wrote: Hary - do you think that the Census Bureau put the 25 dormitories in the wrong location? Did you look at nearby blocks and block groups? Elaine Murakami 206-220-4460<tel:206-220-4460> From: ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net> [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net>] On Behalf Of hprawiranata mitcrpc.org<http://mitcrpc.org> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:43 PM To: ctpp-news@chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news@chrispy.net> Subject: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ? I have not checked other campus area population counted by census 2010 but this number is very large (and hope not double counted by their parents), 10,688. And there are only 3 houses on the campus area based on the census block result, I know: 1 president's house, 1 chapel , and... don't know the 3rd but there are 25 dorms not counted. And the house location is not right, or a block with population data but no house... as my boss said, a lot of people live at MSU tunnel. If attachment is not allowed: zip code 48825, MSU campus area on census 2010, total block population: 10688, number of houses:3 .. and based on campus data students live on campus (residence hall) is about 15000 (the nation's largest single-campus residence hall system !) Any comments ? Hary _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news@ryoko.chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news@ryoko.chrispy.net> http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news@ryoko.chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news@ryoko.chrispy.net> http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news -- Patricia C. (Patty) Becker APB Associates/Southeast Michigan Census Council (SEMCC) 28300 Franklin Rd, Southfield, MI 48034 office: 248-354-6520 home:248-355-2428 pbecker@umich.edu<mailto:pbecker@umich.edu>