2 Feb
2011
2 Feb
'11
11:49 a.m.
After sending an earlier CTPP post this morning, I was asked "how do you know Census
Bureau "badly underestimated" the top-line population totals in your
metro?"
Great question...
The latest news is: Census Bureau has coughed up the answer for us. This morning CB has
published side-by-side comparison of Census enumeration counts vs. the Bureau's annual
estimates (from a model). You can find it at
http://www.census.gov/popest/states/tables/table-2.xls
It looks like there are 26 states where the Bureau's model has been under-estimating
population by > 0.5%.
And 10 states where the model has been over-estimating population by > 0.5%.
* Of course, my tally here assumes that the Census counts are "perfect" and free
of under-count. And maybe it's too early to make such assumption. (Biggest
discrepancy: Arizona... Hmm.)
Anyway, check it out at http://www.census.gov/popest/states/tables/table-2.xls
Enjoy.
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Todd Graham
Principal Forecaster
Metropolitan Council
390 Robert Street North
Saint Paul, MN 55101
ph: 651/602-1322
email: todd.graham(a)metc.state.mn.us
in: www.linkedin.com/in/toddgraham
web: http://www.metrocouncil.org/data/
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-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of
Graham, Todd
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 8:47 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] 2000 and 2006-08 work trip comparison question
Hi Frank--
Hope the new year is treating you well.
You asked what you're missing: How is the 3-year or 5-year window *not* like a moving
average?
Some of the moving parts changing from year to year are the control totals and, as result,
the weights (expansion factor) that would be attached to any given household found in the
5 annual sub-samples that comprise the period sample.
The population control totals come an exogenous, completely-outside-the-survey-itself,
annual estimation model. And in our region, Mpls-St Paul, CB badly underestimated the
top-line population totals during early and mid-decade. I think they realized it (oops),
and they've been trying to make up ground ever since.
Also pertaining to control totals, there may be a time-series disruption for small areas
with the vintage 2009 data. CB transitioned from having county-level control totals to
having sub-county control totals. And that's likely to cause weird time-series breaks
for some cities where population was previously under- (or over-)estimated.
... Expect more fun this Fall, when vintage 2010 ACS are re-benchmarked to 2010 Census
Enumeration
________________________
Todd Graham
Principal Forecaster
Metropolitan Council
390 Robert Street North
Saint Paul, MN 55101
ph: 651/602-1322
email: todd.graham(a)metc.state.mn.us
in: www.linkedin.com/in/toddgraham
web: www.metrocouncil.org
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From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Frank
Lenk [FLENK(a)MARC.ORG]
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:34 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] 2000 and 2006-08 work trip comparison question.
Call me dense, but I don't see how this problem is any different than working with
moving averages. I mean, I do understand that this data is not an average but a period
estimate. Still, the issues created by dropping the first year of the period and adding
the last year as the data series moves forward in time seems the same to me.
What am I not understanding properly?
Frank
Frank Lenk
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