Bob:
I will attempt to answer your questions, and distribute my response to you,
to a number of individuals, and to the CTPP news group on the off chance
that others may have similar concerns. Here goes.
1) The effect of participation in the TAZ update program on the CTPP data that
will be available is simple. If you want any TAZ level data out of the 2000
CTPP, you must participate in the TAZ update program. If you want CTPP data
only for standard census geography, either tracts or block groups (you choose
which one), then you don't need to participate in the TAZ update program.
You asked about CTPP data available on the Internet. Right now, we don't know
if there will be any CTPP data available over the internet. We are currently
discussing the design, content, products, etc. of the 2000 CTPP with DOT. (For
general information and updates you might want to join the CTPP news group,
ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net. Instructions for subscribing may be found at the URL
http://www.mcs.com/~berwyned/census. Note that there is lots of other
interesting stuff presented there, courtesy of Ed Christopher of the Chicago
Area Transportation Study and others.)
Anyway, what we do know is that there won't be CTPP data, nor any commuter
flow data, nor any specific workplace data, available through the Census
Bureau's decennial web access, once called the Data Access and Distribution
System (DADS) but now known as the American FactFinder. Flow data, or any
data tabulated by workplace instead of by residence, has been determined to
be out of scope for American FactFinder.
In our discussions with DOT we have outlined a 2000 CTPP that would consist
of a Statewide Element and an Urban Element. Each element would contain a
set of residence-based tables, a set of workplace-based tables, and a set of
origin by destination tables. These sets of tables will be standard for all
areas. Our assumption is that for a whole state in the statewide element or
for an MPO area in the urban element, the volume of data would be too great
to ask people to download it over the net. So we think we will distribute
the 2000 CTPP on CD (or some other high capacity medium) again. This time,
however, we will provide the access software ourselves and deliver just one
integrated product, data and software at the same time.
However, DOT has indicated (and I agree) that it would be nice to be able to
have some kind of data on demand system available for CTPP customers over the
net. But this is still just an idea at this point. We don't know if it's
feasible, how expensive it would be to develop, how it would work, etc.
We'll try to keep people posted on the status; right now we've agreed to look
into what it would entail, but have not promised to provide such
functionality as part of the CTPP.
2) I'm not the best person to ask what standard geography will be available
from American FactFinder. I'm not sure the decision has been made yet. I
would guess that you'll be able to retrieve anything that has been released
on a summary tape file. This would imply that you could get individual data
items for tracts and block groups of residence. It sounds like there may be
some multi-variable crosses that will be available for tracts, but not for
BGs (too much detail for the finer geography). In general, there could be
some differences like this in what data are available based on the size of an
area, but I think this would be the only criterion. As I noted above, there
won't be CTPP data available, nor any flow data, nor data by place of work
from American FactFinder. There will probably be recodes like worked in same
county, diff. county, diff state, etc.
I don't know what the current plans are for data on demand over the net
through American FactFinder. They might accept specs for custom tallies from
PUMS, but this would be for large geographic units. I don't know if there
will be any facility for doing custom tables from the full sample (i.e., not
PUMS). Even if you wanted TAZ of residence only (no flows or at-work data) I
don't know if TAZ is a piece of geography that will be supported. It could
be, because we intend to provide it on the internal files we use for
tabulations, but that doesn't mean they'll make it available over the net on
demand. I see on the Census web site that questions about 2000 are supposed
to be directed to 2000usa(a)census.gov. You could try this and see what you
get. I'd be interested in seeing their reply.
3) If an MPO does not participate in TAZ-UP, we will ask them to choose
tracts or block groups as their smallest geographic unit in the 2000 CTPP.
4) I'm not sure I understand this question. In the Urban Element, the MPOs
choices are taz (if you've participated in TAZ-UP), tract, or BG. You'll
have to pick one.
5) Our assumption so far has been that MPOs will have the choice described
above for urban element geography. This would only cover the counties
situated in the MPO areas. However, all counties would be included in the
statewide element and there would be summary levels for counties and places
of say 2,500 or more residents in the statewide element (as in the 1990
CTPP). Massachusetts (as well as some other New England states) may be an
exception in that the whole state may be covered by MPOs (RPAs in Mass) and
therefore the whole state may be included in the urban element at the taz,
or tract, or block group level.
6) The Census Bureau's policy is that the most detailed level of geography
we will show for sample (long form) data is the block group. That is why
MPOs can choose between BGs and tracts for their CTPP. In the past we have
treated TAZs as BG-like units and provided sample data for TAZs in the CTPP
as well. There seems to be more concern for 2000 within the Census Bureau
that BGs, and by implication BG-like units, may be too small to support some
of the large (in terms of number of cells) tables created for them in the
past.
7) Again, I'm not sure what you are asking. In standard census data
products like STF3A on CD-ROM the entire hierarchy is available, from Block
Group to whole state totals. In printed reports, totals for places above
some size cutoff are usually available. There have also been printed data
available in the past for census tracts by residence, but I don't know if
that will happen for 2000. In the CTPP, you pick one of the three as your
most detailed level.
8) Even if an MPO, or region, or county used TAZs in the 1990 CTPP and those
TAZs were inserted into TIGER, and they think they don't want to make any
changes to the boundaries, they still have to participate in the TAZ-UP
program if they want TAZ data from the CTPP in 2000. It is entirely
possible that some of the lines used as TAZ boundaries in 1990 will not be
available for use in 2000, so boundaries will need to be adjusted. But in
addition, for 2000 there will be many more lines that will be eligible to be
used for TAZ boundaries, since MPOs won't be constrained to build them up
from census tabulation blocks. This means it should be easier for the MPO
to approximate the true TAZ boundaries than it has been in the past.
Sorry this has run on so long. Please call me at (301) 457-2454 if I've
missed the boat and failed to clearly answer your questions.
--Phil
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: CTPP 2000 TAZ Update Program
Author: "Frey-DPW Bob" <Bob.Frey(a)state.ma.us> at SMTP-GATEWAY
Date: 11/30/1998 3:36 PM
Hello Phil:
Bob Frey from the Massachusetts Highway Department here. We have had
several discussions concerning CTPP in past years, and I'm hoping you can
help again. Todd Blair suggested I contact you to get some further
clarification regarding the TAZ Update program:
1) Will TAZ update participation status have any effect on what CTPP data
will be available on the internet, or will a standard set of reports be
available for all areas?
2) And what standard census geography will be available on the internet,
and does this differ depending on the area?
3) If an MPO choses not to participate in the program, what is the default
delineation for 2000 CTPP data (census tracts, block groups, or 1990 TAZ
boundaries)?
4) In this situation, would block groups be available to every area anyway?
5) If not, will the CTPP data be available only to the level of tracts for
rural areas, and down to block groups for urbanized areas?
6) Exactly what determines the lowest level of census geography available
for the data in a given region?
7) Program participation aside, how can I determine what will be available
throughout Massachusetts in terms of tracts/block groups?
8) If a region/county wants to keep their 1990 TAZs without changes, do
they still need to participate in the TAZ Update Program to confirm this?
If you could get back to me soon by phone or e-mail I would greatly
appreciate it.
Thanks,
Bob Frey
MassHighway Planning
(617)973-7449
bob.frey(a)state.ma.us