From: Srinivasan, Nanda <FHWA>
Sent: Fri 9/1/2006 10:03 AM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: FW: [CTPP] ACS Data on Commuting
From: Srinivasan, Nanda <FHWA>
Sent: Fri 9/1/2006 12:41 AM
To: Chuck Purvis
Cc: APICKARD(a)hrpdc.org; ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] ACS Data on Commuting
Andy and Chuck:
I am developing a national county based mode for workers in household for every county in
the country (Table 1-35 in CTPP 2000), and will post this soon. Nationally, there were
1.339 million GQ workers in 2000, and almost half of them walked or biked (commute time
(tt) <= 14 mins). National mode share (percent) with or without GQ was not that
different for 2000.
Nationally, GQ travel time was around 14 minutes in 2000 (using 1 % PUMS). Nationally, GQ
does not matter much and gets masked, but not at a regional level. You could use the 5%
PUMS to get a feel for it for both SF and for VA beach. For the entire state of VA, GQ
travel time was 13.5 minutes in 2000 (using 5 % PUMS).
Thanks
Nanda
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From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net on behalf of Chuck Purvis
Sent: Thu 8/31/2006 7:41 PM
To: CTPP-News; Andrew PICKARD
Subject: Re: [CTPP] ACS Data on Commuting
Andy:
I'll respond to CTPP-News since this is a good question and a tough
answer.
Yes, you can derive Group Quarters workers by Means of transportation
by subtracting TOTAL workers by means, say, taking CTPP Table 1-20
(workers by means of transportation (11) by length of US residence) LESS
CTPP Table 1-35 (workers in HHs by means of transportation to work (11)
by vehicles available in HH). This should work, UNLESS you need detailed
transit-sub-modes, or bike vs walk splits.
No, you can't get average travel time, or GQ workers by travel time
distribution (or even HH workers by travel time distribution) from the
CTPP. The only method I'm aware of to obtain AVERAGE TRAVEL TIME for
HOUSEHOLD WORKERS is from Census 2000 PUMS. Of course, with PUMS, you
can estimate the average travel time, and the travel time distributions,
for GQ workers as well as household workers. For our region, there is no
difference in the average travel time for total workers compared to
household workers, so for Average Travel Time it may not be worth the
effort to do the calculation in PUMS. It's probably region-specific: how
different are your GQ workers compared to HH workers?
We would be in big trouble with our non-motorized lobby if we didn't
separately report bicycle from walk commuters. So, what I did was use
the bike/walk split for TOTAL commuters (say, CTPP Table 1-2, by 18
means of transportaiton), and applied the bike/walk split to the
Household Workers shown in CTPP Table 1-35. Or, you could always use
PUMS, but it's easier just to use the bike/walk split from CTPP Table
1-2.
One thing you may want to try is to "age" the Census 2000 GQ data up to
2005, using the GQ population estimates that are available, at a
county-level, from the FSCPE web site. It's an educated WAG, but it
might be useful when you want to make comparisons to independent data,
like the employed resident data from the BLS' LAUS estimates.
Chuck
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>> "Andrew PICKARD"
<APICKARD(a)hrpdc.org> 08/31/06 1:57 PM >>>
Very helpful post. Had a
question for you. Do you know if there is a
way to find out the number of group quarters workers, and their travel
time and mode from 2000 Census? Just trying to get an idea of who we
are missing in the 2005 ACS. Thanks for any assistance.
Andy Pickard, P.E.
Senior Transportation Engineer
Hampton Roads Planning District Commission
723 Woodlake Drive
Chesapeake, VA. 23320
Phone: 757.420.8300 Fax: 757.523.4881
apickard(a)hrpdc.org
www.hrpdc.org
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