Re: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ?

Universities can usually provide you with a count of how many on-campus students in group quarters have vehicles, via their permit issuances. Many on-campus students do have vehicles depending on the university. John Hodges-Copple Director of Regional Planning Triangle J Council of Governments PO Box 12276 Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 919-558-9320 mailto:johnhc@tjcog.org / Home - TJCOG<http://www.tjcog.org/> Street Address: 4307 Emperor Blvd. Durham, NC 27703 From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Patricia Becker Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:19 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: Re: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ? You get population but no housing when the entire population is in group quarters. Leave the GQ out of the vehicles per household calculation, although it is definitely possible that people in college GQ have vehicles. Since you're in Michigan, if you'd like me to help you some more, give me a call at 248-354-6520. Patty Becker On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:19 PM, hprawiranata mitcrpc.org<http://mitcrpc.org> <hprawiranata@mitcrpc.org<mailto:hprawiranata@mitcrpc.org>> wrote: If you see on my screenshot (table on the right), how can CB put population number but no houses ? On residential areas I checked randomly (20-30 samples), the CB block level data is correct or close, census block said 12 houses and my parcel data shows the same number. I have to create new aggregate based on zip from block data for calculating number of vehicle per household (I got sanitized (name and address removed) vehicle registrations only zip for location). University, Colleges are not included (special generators). I just found out strange campus population at block level and I'm wondering the implications. For block group (wide campus area), it does not include block with high population (dorms) and it is wrong. Hary On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:23 PM, <Elaine.Murakami@dot.gov<mailto:Elaine.Murakami@dot.gov>> wrote: Hary - do you think that the Census Bureau put the 25 dormitories in the wrong location? Did you look at nearby blocks and block groups? Elaine Murakami 206-220-4460<tel:206-220-4460> From: ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net> [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net>] On Behalf Of hprawiranata mitcrpc.org<http://mitcrpc.org> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:43 PM To: ctpp-news@chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news@chrispy.net> Subject: [CTPP] Census 2010 - student count ? I have not checked other campus area population counted by census 2010 but this number is very large (and hope not double counted by their parents), 10,688. And there are only 3 houses on the campus area based on the census block result, I know: 1 president's house, 1 chapel , and... don't know the 3rd but there are 25 dorms not counted. And the house location is not right, or a block with population data but no house... as my boss said, a lot of people live at MSU tunnel. If attachment is not allowed: zip code 48825, MSU campus area on census 2010, total block population: 10688, number of houses:3 .. and based on campus data students live on campus (residence hall) is about 15000 (the nation's largest single-campus residence hall system !) Any comments ? Hary _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news@ryoko.chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news@ryoko.chrispy.net> http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news _______________________________________________ ctpp-news mailing list ctpp-news@ryoko.chrispy.net<mailto:ctpp-news@ryoko.chrispy.net> http://ryoko.chrispy.net/mailman/listinfo/ctpp-news -- Patricia C. (Patty) Becker APB Associates/Southeast Michigan Census Council (SEMCC) 28300 Franklin Rd, Southfield, MI 48034 office: 248-354-6520 home:248-355-2428 pbecker@umich.edu<mailto:pbecker@umich.edu> E-Mail correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Act and may be disclosed to third parties unless made confidential under applicable law.