Mark:
I am on the AASHTO CTPP committee, and I can answer part of your
question: You can create your own shape files, you can import them into
the TAZ delineation software for viewing, BUT you cannot submit them
directly to Census as your desired TAZ delineation. Census needs the
delineations from all the MPOs and DOTs from across the land in a single
uniform file format, which is the format of the output of the TAZ
software.
The software will allow you to import your shape files so that you can
construct the TAZs with the shapes from your other software as a
background layer.
Pete Swensson, Senior Planner
Thurston Regional Planning Council
2424 Heritage Ct. SW
Olympia, WA 98502
(360) 741-2530 (direct line)
(360) 956-7575 (main desk)
(360) 956-7815 (fax)
swenssp(a)trpc.org
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[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Flinner, Mark (DOT)
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 2:46 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Cc: jonathan ehrlich; Tom Faella; mark.filipi(a)metc.state.mn.us
Subject: [CTPP] RE: TAZ software training vs. not using the TAZ software
Is there anything to prevent an MPO from creating their own shape files
for Census TAZ or Census TAD boundary/ Block Equivalencies assuming they
have already obtained 2010 TIGER boundary sets?
Also, we am planning a Census TAZ delineation workshop on February 7th
to discuss issues associated with nesting model TAZs within Census TAZs
given the relatively low populations of most of our MPO model TAZs. I
had hoped to acquaint people with the software environment prior to the
training sessions at the end of the month but understand that we are not
a testing state. I also expect a discussion of the complexities of
obtaining CTPP special tabulation data then needing to reallocate the
data to model TAZ geographies. Is there anything you can share with us
to assist in these areas? I have also received a question of what other
uses (besides the one-time use of obtaining CTPP data) the census TAZ
and TAD geographies have beyond the census year. LEHD On the Map comes
to mind... other uses?
Thank you.
From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net
[mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of
Elaine.Murakami(a)dot.gov
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:25 PM
To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] TAZ software training: WEB ONLY scheduled for Friday,
Feb 25 and Monday, Feb 28
As you know, TAZ delineation by State DOTs and MPOs will occur very
soon, with software distribution in March/early April and files returned
to the CB by mid-July. The software is being tested by volunteer State
DOTs and MPOs starting from Friday, Jan 14 thru Feb 2. Thank you to all
the volunteers! We do not need any additional software testers.
We have two web training events scheduled. REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.
Please make sure that you capture the full http:// address, in case the
listserv breaks it up. You need the address including webconfid=22433,
or webconfid=21975
I have reserved 300 spaces for each day, so there should be enough room
for everyone. If you are unavailable on those days, the sessions will
be recorded and available for later viewing. The same training will
occur on each day, so please sign up for only one.
The web meeting software has been upgraded, therefore, the email with
the confirmation of your registration will have a link to check the
functionality on your computer.
Friday, 2/25/2011, from 10 a.m. - noon EASTERN:
Registration URL:
https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_re
g.aspx?webconfid=22433
<https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_r
eg.aspx?webconfid=22433>
Monday, 2/28/2011, from 2 - 4 p.m. EASTERN:
Registration URL:
https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_re
g.aspx?webconfid=21975
<https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_r
eg.aspx?webconfid=21975>
Question: why is the time to do this only 3 months?
Answer: For the TAZ and TAD delineation, it is important to be able to
use the TIGER files with the 2010 geography and 2010 population counts.
The 2010 population counts will be released to the public on a flow
basis starting in March 2011, so we have to wait until these data are
available to begin TAZ and TAD delineation. If the 5-year CTPP using
2006-2010 ACS records will be tabulated for TAZs and TADs, the TAZ and
TAD delineations need to be completed quickly and returned to the CB
Geography Division (GEO) 3 months after the agencies receive their files
(no later than July 2011).
This provides GEO with sufficient time to QC the submissions, produce
the necessary files so that ACS records will get TAZ/TAD identifiers,
and create TIGER/Line shapefiles for TAZ/TAD geography. If the TAZs
and TADs
are not delineated within this time frame, the CTPP tabulation could be
delayed for another year, that is, Fall 2013.
Question: are there strict thresholds on either residential population
or workplace population?
Answer: No. The software will give a warning message, but will still
allow you to define TAZs below the recommended "threshold." (The FAQ
will include more discussion about this topic.)
We are working on an FAQ document on TAZs and will post it on the AASHTO
CTPP page.
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/taz.aspx
<http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/taz.aspx>
Elaine Murakami
FHWA Office of Planning
206-220-4460