Re: [CTPP] putting forth a cohesive argument for Census

Nancy - Did you hear anything back ? From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Nancy Reger Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:45 AM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: [CTPP] putting forth a cohesive argument for Census I would like to coordinate a statement from Ohio MPO's to put forth a statement regarding the importance of Census data to transportation planning work. Have any other states, or organization put together a cohesive statement? I would like to make sure our voices are consistent. Anyone have specific actions they have taken? Thanks. Nancy Nancy Reger | nreger(a)morpc.org Deputy Director, Transportation | Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission T: 614.233.4154 | | F: 614.233.4254 111 Liberty Street, Suite 100 | Columbus, OH 43215 <http://www.morpc.org/> cid:image001.png@01CDADDC.13A5DD60 <http://www.facebook.com/morpc> cid:image002.png@01CDADDC.13A5DD60 <http://www.twitter.com/morpc> cid:image003.jpg@01CDADDC.13A5DD60 From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Alan Pisarski Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:15 AM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: Re: [CTPP] The Case for ACS, the Economic Census, sampling and Federal data-gathering I really feel we do bear some of the burden of proof here. We do a terrible job of making the case for data and for the big stuff in particular - so called general purpose data are soft in their clear applications - being implicit doesn't do it. Part of the issues is just grandstanding on the part of politicians, but a big part of it is we don't tell them what we do with the stuff. Have you ever had a cocktail party conversation about, say, "why do you need to know what time I leave for work?" We are in a societal situation today where: a.) There is great fear of govt snooping and a real lack of trust b.) A massive amount of big data observation c.) AND, the contrary crazy part, of some who will divulge just about everything on their facebook etc. site. d.) And don't forget the Bureau's unwillingness to publish much of the data they collect because of disclosure. Trust me with your money and your personal data just won't work anymore. We have to do our homework and do a far better job of making the case for the growing govt need for more and more data growing out of new mandates. Alan PS the Bureau is good but not close to being best or leader in World. Stats Canada, Australian Bureau of Statistics, Netherlands Bureau of Statistics are the real leaders and a bunch more. From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Ken.Cervenka(a)dot.gov Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 5:37 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: Re: [CTPP] The Case for ACS, the Economic Census, sampling and Federal data-gathering Hi Jonathan, Some excellent observations, thanks for sharing. An example of one of the underlying strengths of CTPP is that even though CTPP 2000 flow data is now 13 years old, the journey-to-work data still represents the "best available" data across the country, for use in home-based work regional travel model validation checks. I am not referring to simple HBW trip length frequency checks (for which much smaller samples, e.g., the samples available from typical household surveys), I am talking about district-to-district checks of predicted versus observed HBW person trips by (let's say) 0-vehicle, 1-vehicle and 2+ vehicle socioeconomic groups. Yes, the "observed" data is getting old, but can be "fratared" with the growth rates in population and employment to be a reasonably good representation of "current year" HBW flows. Many people think travel forecasts are way off from reality because of problems with the mode choice model and/or traffic assignment procedures, but I wonder how often the real "problem" can be traced back to trip (or activity) generation and the prediction of the zone-to-zone person trip (or activity flow) tables! The next "best available" dataset of home-to-work commuter trips is going to be the next available "five-year" CTPP, that is now very close to a public release. There will of course be concerns that the overall number of raw records in the new "five-year" CTPP is a lot less than what was obtained in CTPP 2000, but all that really means, I think, is that one must be very careful to never rely on the actual TAZ-to-TAZ numbers: but still feel very confident with the prudent aggregation of TAZ-to-TAZ numbers into locally meaningful district-to-district totals. In regards to the national sample, the new CTPP will still be a pretty huge number of records, compared to just about anything else that is not some type of "private" purchasable database. It would be a shame if the about-to-be-released set of CTPP-based TAZ-to-TAZ flows is the last one ever produced. If the NHTS sample size could come anywhere close to the CTPP sample size, then maybe one wouldn't need the CTPP, but that is not going to ever happen. Ken Cervenka FTA Office of Planning and Environment From: ctpp-news-bounces(a)chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Lupton Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 3:36 PM To: ctpp-news(a)chrispy.net Subject: [CTPP] The Case for ACS, the Economic Census, sampling and Federal data-gathering The loss of Census sampling (today the ACS), the Census of Agriculture, the Economic Census, etc., would be disastrous in so many ways I find it hard to believe anyone - even deeply partisan politicians - would advocate their demise. The small gain to the Federal government's bottom line would be undercut by huge (albeit hidden) losses to the private and public sectors. The loss would be especially acute for small businesses. 1. There can be no serious doubt that Federal sample products leverage their cost many times over in benefits to the economy. The benefits are so widespread, and so implicit, that the burden of proof must lie on anyone attempting to undo Federal data-gathering. And they will find no such proof. 2. The U.S. government has, in the past, set the world standard for data-gathering. The widespread availability of free, accurate data runs hand-in-hand with upholding the standard as the world's foremost democratic society. To surrender the ACS and related products is not just a bad idea, it is a retreat from leadership. 3. Answering ACS forms, or any other Federal questionnaire, is a matter of personal responsibility. To survive, democracy depends not just on the protection of personal rights; it also demands a sense of responsibility by its citizens. 4. I have never heard of anyone going to prison, or even being fined, for failing to provide data to Census takers. Everyone knows that there are people and businesses which refuse to cooperate; the practice of non-compliance is already tolerated. But compliance is the law, and this sets a tone of legality which allows the ACS and other projects to gather the necessary data. 5. If the data business becomes mostly private in nature, the cost of obtaining data will largely limit its availability to large corporations that could afford to purchase it, creating another disadvantage to small businesses and business start-ups. 6. Here in Little Rock we host one of the country's largest data-gathering agencies, the Acxiom Corporation. It's an open secret that Acxiom, and other companies like it, hold vast amounts of data about just about everybody. While Census data is protected by confidentiality laws, disturbingly intimate corporate data can be sold to the highest bidder. 7. While the anti-census anti-government lobby argues unconvincingly about government as "Big Brother," there is therefore another, less accountable version of "Big Brother," existing in secret corporate data-gathering. Such data could become the only basis for information about our society. Without Federal laws, and Executive and Congressional oversight, who could prevent this private data from being falsified? Without the credibility of ACS and related programs as a "cross-check," false information could be fed into the system, and could be manipulated by private power brokers. 8. Here in Little Rock we have a small spinoff company which has used Acxiom data to attempt census-like products. Around 2009, they privately gave me a total for the state's largest county (Pulaski) that disagreed with my careful estimates. They ended up being high by about 7 percent, compared with the Census 2010 count that appeared a few months later. My own estimate, based on housing records, was within 1 or 2 percent. A corporate representative thought their figures were inarguably correct; I thought their methods for counting people were flawed. Guess who was right. 9. Data-gathering by the Census Bureau and related agencies isn't perfect, but it has oversight through the democratic process. I'll trust a process that's been around since 1790 before I trust a private company that answers first to shareholders. It is my earnest hope that the effort to kill the ACS is so blatantly foolish that it will never make it to a vote by the U.S. Congress or Senate. I ask those who keep their ear to Congress to please keep the data community well-informed about this disturbing development. Jonathan Lupton AICP Research Planner Metroplan Little Rock, Arkansas 501-372-3300 __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 8345 (20130517) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 8350 (20130519) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com