Elaine,
The tables currently found in the ACS have
been sufficient for my needs and concerns. The idea expressed by Nathan
is intriguing (if I understand it correctly); by “multiple geographic
units”, do we mean various MCDs, TAZs or the 20,000 population areas?
Concerning the “Journey to Work
Trends”, I made use of that data primarily as comparative analysis for
the Twin Cities region to other MSAs and as a template for a more detailed look
at Minneapolis-St.Paul. However, given the workload that appears to
exists, I don’t believe that updating the report to include the 2005-07
information would be useful enough to spend additional time and resources ….at
least for my specific needs and wants.
BOB
From:
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008
4:18 PM
To: ctpp-news@chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] Need your thoughts
on CTPP products using ACS standard tables
Hi Everyone –
I bet you have a lot of questions about CTPP using the first 3 years of ACS and TAZs, but unfortunately, I can’t answer them yet!
Given the current uncertainty of the next CTPP (“custom tabulation”) using
the ACS, we are moving forward to develop products using
standard ACS products. Some of you will recall that we created a series using the first 2005 ACS data products. They
are posted on both the FHWA web http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census/2005tpoverview.htm
and on the AASHTO web
http://ctpp.transportation.org/
On December 9, 2008, the Census
Bureau plans to release the first 3-year ACS products (surveys completed in
2005, 2006 and 2007). The minimum population threshold is 20,000 for the
3-year products, compared to 65,000 population for the
ACS 1-year products. So, while the data is still “swiss cheese,” that is, geographic coverage has
holes, a lot more geographic units will be available. The results
are still subject to the Census
Bureau rules of “collapsing and filtering” which means that
sometimes the data have been suppressed and you will see an
"N".
We are now designing new profile sheets, in which we plan to include data from 2000 (using
Census Summary File 3 and CTPP2000)
and from 2005-2007 ACS. Please let me know if you have any
recommendations for specific tables to include (the data must be available in both 2000 and from the 2005-2007
ACS). One recommendation from Nathan Erlbaum (NYS DOT) is to create a spreadsheet macro that will sum up
multiple geographic units and re-calculate the Margin of Error (using the materials on Page 96-98 in NCHRP Report
588).
Also, I am wondering if there is any interest in an updated
“Journey to Work Trends” report to include the 2005-2007 ACS
results. http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ctpp/jtw/index.htm
This report was limited to metropolitan areas with population over 1 million,
but had trend data including 1960, 1980, 1990 and 2000. Because of redefinitions
of metropolitan areas by OMB, the data need to be accumulated from county
records for historical comparability, which makes for quite a bit of
work. The last report used
the 1999 definition, but the 2005-2007 ACS data
will be reported using the 2007 OMB
definitions (I think). My question for you is: is this report useful enough to spend time and resources on?
Thanks in advance for your opinions.
Elaine Murakami
FHWA Office of Planning (Wash DC)
206-220-4460 (in Seattle)