oh boy.  I stand corrected.  Ouch!

 

From: ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Patty Becker
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 9:04 AM
To: ctpp-news@chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fwd: Legacy Version of American FactFinder will Retire January 20, 2012

 

To quote the census release:
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The Legacy Version of American FactFinder will be discontinued January 20, 2012.
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How will this affect you?





Any deep links into the discontinued system will no longer work.

1. Deep links to specific products from these datasets will not be available:

2. These products will only be available through an archived FTP format. Instructions on how to access these archived products will be provided in future updates.
 
3. All other current and previous year data from the American Community Survey, Puerto Rico Community Survey, Annual Population Estimates, Economic Census, and Annual Economic Surveys are available at http://factfinder2.census.gov.
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This means that the data sets in list 1, including the 1990 census, will NOT be on AFF2. We will have to see what the new deep links mean. 

I join the chorus that says this is a very stupid move. They could leave legacy AFF up there,  with no maintenance, for users who want it.

Patty Becker


At 10:30 AM 12/16/2011, you wrote:

The 1990 data and all data on the legacy Factfinder is not going away (or to FTP access only), it will be moved to the new AFF2.  At least that's what is indicated here:

http://factfinder.census.gov/home/saff/aff_transition.html

"The transition from the legacy American FactFinder to the NEW American FactFinder will continue through the fall of 2011. Data on the legacy FactFinder will be moved to the NEW FactFinder in the coming months."

-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net [ mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Lupton
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 7:38 AM
To: ctpp-news@chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fwd: Legacy Version of American FactFinder will Retire January 20, 2012

I strongly agree with Bob Paddock and Ed Christopher about AFF2 and discontinuation of "legacy" AFF. I'm slowly coming to terms with AFF2; it even has a few advantages, but overall the change is a major loss both for the data-using public AND for us data professionals.

The loss of 1990 Census, except through FTP, will be painful and will definitely further erode data access for my organization. I'm glad Ed promised updates for how to access these figures once they descend to the FTP basement.

Jonathan Lupton
Metroplan
Little Rock





-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net [ mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Paddock, Bob
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:36 PM
To: 'ctpp-news@chrispy.net'
Subject: RE: [CTPP] Fwd: Legacy Version of American FactFinder will Retire January 20, 2012

Poor Ed.

If the Bureau won't even take HIM into consideration, then I know that MY vote won't amount to anything!

Bob Paddock
Transportation Planning
Metropolitan Council - Twin Cities






-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net [ mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Ed Christopher
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:52 PM
To: ctpp-news maillist
Subject: [CTPP] Fwd: Legacy Version of American FactFinder will Retire January 20, 2012

We all knew this was coming but I for one have been in denial.  I think
the Bureau is underestimating how the change will affect me.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        Legacy Version of American FactFinder will Retire January 20, 2012
Date:   Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:16:59 -0600
From:   U.S. Census Bureau <census@subscriptions.census.gov>

LATEST NEWS

December 15, 2011
   Legacy Version of American FactFinder will Retire January 20, 2012
=============
     What Will Happen?
The Legacy Version of American FactFinder will be discontinued January
20, 2012.
=============
     How will this affect you?

Any deep links into the discontinued system will no longer work.

1. Deep links to specific products from these datasets will not be
available:

     * 1990 Census
     * 2000-2004 American Community Survey
     * 2000-2001 Supplementary Survey
     * 1997 Economic Census
     * 2003 Annual Survey of Manufactures
     * 2003 Nonemployer Statistics

2. These products will only be available through an archived FTP format.
Instructions on how to access these archived products will be provided
in future updates.

3. All other current and previous year data from the American Community
Survey, Puerto Rico Community Survey, Annual Population Estimates,
Economic Census, and Annual Economic Surveys are available at
http://factfinder2.census.gov
=============
     What do you need to do?

Use the how-to guide for Building Deep Links into the New American
Factfinder to create links to the NEW American FactFinder.
Look for additional updates in the coming weeks.
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