Thank
you.
From:
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2011 5:33 PM
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Subject:
RE: [CTPP] RE: TAZ software training vs. not using the TAZ
software
Hi
Mark –
1.
The
Census Bureau Geography Division will need a block equivalency file.
Perhaps the CB geo staff can answer the question of whether the TAZ Instruction
will include a FILE LAYOUT for the output files. If so, then it seems to
me that you SHOULD be able to do the TAZ delineation OUTSIDE of the MTPS TAZ
module software, but it would NOT be the PREFERRED method. The
software has checking features, e.g. completeness, contiguity, etc, such
that if you make your own file using the new TIGER files, it will not have the
same quality control features.
2.
What
other purposes of “Census TAZs and TADs”. The current CTPP is funded
to include the 3-year (2006-2008) tabulation and the 5-year (2006-2010)
tabulation, but depending on how things go, future 3-year and/or 5-year CTPP
tabulations are possible if someone wants to pay for them. We think that
the Census Bureau should have made a consistent geographic tabulation unit for
the 20,000 population threshold (for the 3-year ACS), so that there could be
complete coverage, instead of the “swiss cheese” coverage using counties and
places, but they didn’t and haven’t. So, this is OUR opportunity to do
something about it, and maybe we can convince the CB that these units could be
an ACS 3-year tabulation geography in the future. The PUMAs (100,000
population threshold) provide a consistent geographic tabulation unit for the
1-year ACS, but how they have been defined has not always been useful to
transportation planners. As you know, PUMAs were not designed
to be tabulation units, but have become tabulation geographic units in the
ACS.
3.
No
one is required to define Census TAZs. If you think that defining Census
TAZs is too much work for the value you will get from CTPP, you can just say to
use census tracts, or block groups for CTPP. However, we still would
recommend that you define TADs, by combining tracts, for the reason listed
above.
Elaine
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2:46 PM
To: ctpp-news@chrispy.net
Cc: jonathan ehrlich; Tom
Faella; mark.filipi@metc.state.mn.us
Subject: [CTPP] RE: TAZ software
training vs. not using the TAZ software
Is
there anything to prevent an MPO from creating their own shape files for Census
TAZ or Census TAD boundary/ Block Equivalencies assuming they have already
obtained 2010 TIGER boundary sets?
Also,
we am planning a Census TAZ delineation workshop on February 7th to
discuss issues associated with nesting model TAZs within Census TAZs given the
relatively low populations of most of our MPO model TAZs. I had hoped to
acquaint people with the software environment prior to the training sessions at
the end of the month but understand that we are not a testing state.
I also expect a discussion of the complexities of obtaining CTPP special
tabulation data then needing to reallocate the data to model TAZ
geographies. Is there anything you can share with us to assist in these
areas? I have also received a question of what other uses (besides the
one-time use of obtaining CTPP data) the census TAZ and TAD geographies have
beyond the census year. LEHD On the Map comes to mind… other
uses?
Thank
you.
From:
ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net] On
Behalf Of Elaine.Murakami@dot.gov
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011
5:25 PM
To: ctpp-news@chrispy.net
Subject: [CTPP] TAZ
software training: WEB ONLY scheduled for Friday, Feb 25 and Monday, Feb
28
As you
know, TAZ delineation by State DOTs and MPOs will occur very soon, with software
distribution in March/early April and files returned to the CB by
mid-July. The software is being tested by volunteer State DOTs and
MPOs starting from Friday, Jan 14 thru Feb 2. Thank you to all the
volunteers! We do not need any additional software testers.
We have two
web training events scheduled. REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.
Please make sure that you capture the full http://
address, in case the listserv breaks it up. You need the address
including webconfid=22433, or webconfid=21975
I have
reserved 300 spaces for each day, so there should be enough room for
everyone. If you are unavailable on those days, the sessions will be
recorded and available for later viewing. The same training
will occur on each day, so please sign up for only one.
The web
meeting software has been upgraded, therefore, the email
with the confirmation of
your registration will have a link to check the functionality on your
computer.
Friday, 2/25/2011, from
10 a.m. – noon EASTERN:
Registration
URL: https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_reg.aspx?webconfid=22433
Monday, 2/28/2011, from
2 - 4 p.m. EASTERN:
Registration
URL: https://www.nhi.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/webconference/web_conf_learner_reg.aspx?webconfid=21975
Question: why is the
time to do this only 3 months?
Answer: For the TAZ and TAD delineation, it
is important to be able to use the TIGER files with the 2010 geography and 2010
population counts. The 2010 population counts will be released to the
public on a flow basis starting in March 2011, so we have to wait until these
data are available to begin TAZ and TAD delineation. If the 5-year CTPP
using 2006-2010 ACS records will be tabulated for TAZs and TADs, the TAZ and TAD
delineations need to be completed quickly and returned to the CB Geography
Division (GEO) 3 months after the agencies receive their files (no later than
July 2011).
This provides GEO with
sufficient time to QC the submissions, produce the necessary files so that ACS
records will get TAZ/TAD identifiers, and create TIGER/Line shapefiles for
TAZ/TAD geography. If the TAZs and TADs
are not delineated within
this time frame, the CTPP tabulation could be delayed for another year, that is,
Fall 2013.
Question: are there
strict thresholds on either residential population or workplace population?
Answer: No. The
software will give a warning message, but will still allow you to define TAZs
below the recommended “threshold.” (The FAQ will include more discussion
about this topic.)
We are working on an FAQ
document on TAZs and will post it on the AASHTO CTPP page.
http://ctpp.transportation.org/Pages/taz.aspx
Elaine
Murakami
FHWA Office
of Planning
206-220-4460