In my opinion, the bureau has absolutely made the right decision in keeping the block group data off of AFF. I recommended this course of action several years ago. The error levels are WAY too high for casual users, and power users can easily download the file and do what they need to do.

Patty Becker



At 01:01 PM 12/14/2010, you wrote:
The direct answer to Nick is that the block group data will NOT be posted in American Factfinder, and will ONLY be available in Summary File format.

Ed's response was about reasons why the Census chose this differentiation.

Elaine Murakami
FHWA Office of Planning


-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net on behalf of edc@berwyned.com
Sent: Tue 12/14/2010 12:24 PM
To: ctpp-news@chrispy.net
Subject: RE: [CTPP] ACS 2005-09 comparisons with 2000 SF3
 
This is one of those points of speculation and spin.  If you ask the CB
the official line will be that it is so big and contains literally
mountains of tables that it is impractical to serve up with an online
search engine.  They will tell you that comments on this were asked for in
the Federal Register and there was not a huge outcry.  However, if you
"put your ear to the ground" you will hear some speculate that it is
because the tables are so hard to work with due to confidentiality
suppression and large margins of errors that the CB wanted to keep the
data from the "novice" user.  As one noted user put it, "they are putting
the data on the top shelf just out of reach of the kids."

What would be of use here is for people who have begun to work with it to
share their experiences.

Form the CB press release today...
The U.S Census Bureau is pleased to announce the release of the 2005-2009
American Community Survey (ACS) 5-year estimates on American FactFinder.
There you will find tables with social, demographic, housing, and economic
data for areas down to the census tract level.

You can access the newly-released data on American FactFinder at:
2005-2009 ACS 5-year data
http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DatasetMainPageServlet?_program=ACS&_submenuId=&_lang=en&_ts =






> Does anyone know why the Block Group data is not being released via the
> AFFâ?Ts standard pull-down menus? I was under the impression that today
> (12/14) was the release date for this data. I understand that it is
> available via Summary File, but this is far from user friendly.
>
>
>
> When will the data be available via the AFFâ?Ts standard access method?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Nick Lindeman
>
>
>
> Nicholas Lindeman
> Economic & Systems Data Analyst
>
> Nashville Area MPO
> 800 2nd Ave. S.
>
> P.O. Box 196300
> Nashville, TN 37219-6300
> (615) 862-7198
> lindeman@nashvillempo.org
> http://www.nashvillempo.org < http://www.nashvillempo.org/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net [ mailto:ctpp-news-bounces@chrispy.net]
> On Behalf Of Elaine.Murakami@dot.gov
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:15 PM
> To: ctpp-news@chrispy.net
> Subject: FW: [CTPP] ACS 2005-09 comparisons with 2000 SF3
>
>
>
> Correction to my earlier email:  2005-2009 ACS Block Group data WILL be
> released on December 14.
>
>
>
> From: brian.mckenzie@census.gov [ mailto:brian.mckenzie@census.gov]
>
> Good Afternoon Mara and Elaine,
> The summary file data (block group level data) will be available on
> December 14th. You can use American Factfinder as a portal. You will be
> able to download summary file data via the FTP website at
> < http://www2.census.gov/acs2009_5yr/summaryfile/> < http://www2.census.gov/acs2009_5yr/summaryfile/> >. There will also be a
> clickable link next to the familiar portion of AFF in which you select the
> desired ACS year(s) for which you would like data. Hope this helps.
>
> Brian McKenzie
> Analyst, Journey to Work and Migration Statistics Branch
> U.S. Census Bureau
> 301-763-6532
> brian.mckenzie@census.gov
>
>
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