I noted the idea from vladimir... I have been doing this (GIS
interactive OPENGIS compliant interactive data serving) now since
about 2003, have a look at www.reorient.org.uk and see what you think,
www.worldnet.eu(I think) is also using the datacube aspects..
We use an Open GIS compliant mapserver as the base, as a full GIS
is simply not needed (you will note vector editing is included on
reorient). the data code analyser serve r also produces rather
unsatisfactory thematic maps, and we are not happy with them- but we
are with the mapserver stuff.
If anyone is interested I could provide a paper for trb, i think
i have a suitabel one that would be useful, and we have little
Camtasia and QT movies to show how it all works (and all the things
that you cant see from just a public view) - we also have a tiered set
of Camtasia movies shoing end users, admin and system designers at
each level how to do xml data publishing at one edn and updating a
document on the other!
so the TRB lack of live internet access wont matter..(and yes I
WILL be at TRb09 this time)
Id really like to add that the integration of a document
repository and fullscael communciation tools was a key to the success
of the reorient knowledge base.. when you get data docs maps and
analysis email lists and smtp server and videoconference and WKIKI
comunications in one package through a simple W3C compliant (ie no
Microsoft oddities, and accessibel down to a Palm pilot or an iPod
touch - WARNING Flash is needed for the interactive mapping and vector
editing.. so the most advaced aspects are not accessible unless you
have hacked a flash client onto them) one gets something that not only
makes projects hum along better- but solves the after-project
distribution and access iand secure archiving iissues as well all in
the same process.... quite load reduction for busy engineers and
planners.....
It was a long time ago i suggested a show and tell mapping etc
approach to ANF30, and, many years late, such an approach (with vast
improvements) has been spectactulalry successful for CTTP.
The broader issues of community interagency and international dat
aand document sharing and data exploration cost reductions have not
had quite the same attention!
Ive been involved in several metadata data discovery
servers for wide ranges of traffic transport and planning data in
addition to reorient, and am now involved in making realtime data
feeds a part of such systems in a new generation of post
reorient work (www.roadidea.eu, but the gis bits are not visible just
yet)
Again if anyone is interested I could provide a paper (just one)
covering expereinces with all that-- if it is still an interest of
ANF30, Ive been out of touch since I completed my term looking after
the ANF30 metadata subscommittee!
cheers
marcus
At 4:26 PM -0400 19/6/2008, Catherine T Lawson wrote:
ABJ30 Committee Members
and Friends,
We now have the final
Data & Information Systems Section Retreat Report (attached) and
it is time to move forward with our combined support for the Section
Initiatives - and to get our own Committee priorities (also
attached) transformed into real Research Statements with funding
possibilities. The Annual Meeting is taking shape (see attached
"Plans in the Works" )- so far - we are supporting an ADUS
Applications Workshop, co-sponsoring the NHTS Workshop and a workshop
on practical ways to improve transportation-related data. We
still need to get the Census Sub Committee and the Joint ADUS
Committee scheduled. National Data is heading up the Travel Data
Users Forum - more details soon. Hopefully, some of the ideas
below from Members and Friends will be addressed in the "Practical
Ways" Workshop - but I would encourage everyone to provide
feedback on moving these areas of interest so they can reach the
Research Statement stage - and we can start looking for sponsors and
funding!
Hope to see everyone at
NATMEC!!!!!
Kate
Ideas from
Committee Members --
Vladimir
Livshits, Ph. D, M. Sc
System Analysis Program Manager
vlivshits@mag.maricopa.gov
I. Information
systems
- GIS as an integration
base: development of GIS-T and transportation multi-year master
networks. We are trying to integrate supply data with TIP/RTP/LCP
information; LRS-based systems - might be good for 1/2 day workshop.
The system integrates data flow across MPO business processes from
collection to modeling to Regional Plan.
- Data integration: One
direction: supply data counts - travel time - safety data (we are
doing a project on this right now) Another direction - integration
along business processes in metropolitan planning (data collection /
acquisition - data management - data control and analysis -
forecasting/modeling - planning)
- Data
accessibility/analysis - we still have a long way to go here. Looks
like private sector is leading now. Might be a good topic for a
workshop or a session. I mean web-based technologies and analytical
tools that will facilitate data utilization. Its related to the
previous two.
II. Possible items
for cooperation with ABJ40 - where emerging problems/issues with
travel surveys can be addressed with new
technology:
- household surveys:
changes in people's behavior and
communication technology resulted in ever dropping response rates and
necessity to look for different methods of data collection (cell
phones surveys, GPS, progress, issues) - They have some calls for
papers on this, but it seems like some important issues are still not
getting enough attention, how survey methodology affects applicability
of the results, etc.
- household surveys: move
to bigger samples - should we go back to this direction? (that is
still the approach in Canada, for example)
- Intercept surveys are
under fire in some places (there is an excellent TTI report on this)
and we encourage advancements in automated data collection (cameras,
etc.) again, issues: cooperation with DOT on license plate
information, road closure permits for installations, quality of the
data, etc.
- Travel time and speed
data: move from floating car technology to an ongoing data collection
by third parties - implications
- Transit surveys -
struggle with low completion rates
- Truck travel surveys -
low response rates, how new technology can help us, how we can
establish channels of cooperation with private sector, place for the
new collection techniques
- Luck of independent
data sets for travel forecasting model validation (survey data
normally used 100% for estimation/calibration), supply data can be
used only for certain final validations
- Data requirements of
the Activity-Based Models, how the movement towards disaggregation and
microsimulation in modeling affects data
collection
Ideas
from Committee Friends
Ken Dueker
(duekerk@aol.com)
One data
area that Dick Lycan and I have been concerned with is working
(mandates or incentive) with Assessor's to gather accurate counts of
number of units housing units on parcels of land. An
accurate count of HUs is important to many demographic based
transportation demand models. Yet it is not counted with care by
assessors and they have not incentive or mandate to do
so.
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Program
Associate Professor
University at
Albany
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Planning
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Albany, New York
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